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  • #41
    Tim Bradley is scared of Amir Khan

    We all know this


    After he get brutally knocked out by the next person he fights, maybe

    Khan can use him as a sparring partner

    Desert storm my ass rofl

    AMIR KHAN SHOULD BE THE REAL DESERT STORM

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    • #42
      Originally posted by TheHayeMaker View Post
      A duck or 'perceived' duck is two fighters who are both still in or close to their primes, yet one keep avoiding the other for whatever reasons.

      Or one fighter who just wait and wait and wait for another fighter to grow old and shot, then suddenly decides the 'fight is now'


      Now a lot of these ducks are just rumors from the general boxing fan public, so take it for what it is.


      1- Rid**** Bowe - duck Lennog Lewis

      This one is not a rumor. He blatantly was terrified of Lewis and ducked him for a decade.


      2- Joe Calzaghe rumored: ducked both Jones and HOpkins until they were old.

      I give Joe a break here, because Hopkins seem to have gotten better with age. But people still accuse Joe of this


      3- Dariuz M and Roy Jones. Most people feel that they just simply avoided and ducked each other.

      If they had fought, I believe Roy Jones would have won a wide UD. But I don't think either one wanted to take the risk.

      4- Sugar Ray Leonard ducked aron pryor. Once again this is accusations made that Sugar Ray felt Pryor was too big of a risk at the time. And not enough of a reward.

      5-Sugar Ray Leonard giving Hagler false hope when Hagler was in his prime that they were gonna fight, then 'retiring' only to come back when Hagler was old.


      6- Floyd Mayweather rumored to have avoided P Will. Magarito and Cotto prior to retirement.

      Floyd rumored to be having Pacquaio now. This is actually both camps avoiding each other. I think Floyd beats all 3 at whatever times he fight them, but he did avoided Magarito Cotto and P Will when they were near their peak. (according to a lot of boxing fans at least)

      7- Tyson paying Lennox Lewis 4 million 'step aside' money to not fight during the mid 90's .. This one is not talked about as much because Mike went broke like a proper champ and got ktfo in the early 2000's, but if he didnt duck Lewis during the mid 90's it would have changed HW history and Lewis's ATG rankings would have changed big time.
      (I myself give Tyson a break here, because he was no longer in his prime and probably knew Lewis was gonna ktfo him)

      8- Tyson avoiding 'old fat comeback George'

      Now Tyson probably punch holes through this version, or he get moorrered nobody will know. We do know one thing, fat big comeback George would have fought Tyson anywhere any place.


      9-JOE CALZAGHE AND SVEN OTTKE

      How these two amazing warriors of the thousand punches per rounds did not fight each other in what could have been the most magnificent trilogy of all times I DO NOT KNOW.. Somebody's 0 coulda go
      That was a pretty enjoyable post to read.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by TheHayeMaker View Post
        I know Leonard is an amazing fighter ok.

        BUT THE ONLY PERSON I believe is not scared of anyone on this list is

        Floyd Mayweather JR

        I think Floyd can beat everyone but he didn't want to fight the fights prior to his retirement because it's high risk low reward.



        It is obvious when it comes to Leonard, he did avoid Hagler, look ANYONE WOULD. Hagler is a ****ing beast and a MW. But the truth is Leonard did vulture Hagler and waited till Hagler got slower and older.

        This debate over leonard and Hagler could go on and on.
        HBO is a myth creator I agree with you on this. Leonard did make up **** though as he is prone to do.

        Why do you think people mocked him when he talked **** about Floyd ducking?

        The comments were like 'IRONIC COMING FROM SUGAR RAY' there's a reason so many comments were like that
        Marvin Hagler is my favourite fighter of all time.

        Maybe Leonard did vulture him a bit. But, he was under no obligation to ever fight him, when you're in a different weightclass nothing says he should move up and box Hagler. Leonard did retire in 82' with a detached retina, had one so-so fight and then retired again. I personally do not see a duck there.

        The extent to which Hagler was past-prime is a little overblown as well. He was still the Undisputed MW Champion of the world, yes he had slid notably and didn't look slick in the Mugabi fight. However he still beat down a decent powerful contender, with an awkward style. The fact of the matter is, Ray Leonard was more past it than Hagler was. I mean there's only so many years you can go without a notable fight and Leonard did 5.

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        • #44
          where is "pacquiao ducking mayweather" in your list?!

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          • #45
            Leonard didn't avoid Hagler until he was old, Hagler was still the MW champ and one of the top fighters in the world. And Hagler was MW, Leonard was a WW, enough said. He never had to fight him, just like Floyd and Manny don't have to fight Sergio, who's a full fledge MW.

            And Floyd didn't "duck" Paul Williams man. Williams didn't even get a good win until 2007 and got upset by Quintana in 2008, beat him in a rematch, and than moved up in weight.

            And Leonard didn't duck Aaron Pryor. Leonard offered Pryor a fight in the 80's and Pryor turned it down.

            Mayweather, you could argue that he found a way around Margarito because he knew he would fight Oscar in a mega fight in 07'. But when he was offered that fight after splitting from Bob Arum, Arum couldn't guarantee Floyd the money he wanted. He ended up fighting Oscar and Hatton in much bigger fights for much more money. It's hard to say Floyd ducked anyone with Bob Arum when we know how Bob Arum operates.

            And as for Floyd not fighting Cotto in his prime and only past his prime-still good, how is that totally Floyd??? Floyd wanted to fight Cotto during 05-06 when both were TR, but TR said flat out "Cotto isn't ready for Floyd". Only when Floyd talked up retiring in 07' after splitting from TR in 06' did everyone start saying he was avoiding him. Cotto himself even said he wasn't pursuing a Floyd fight at all. Cotto splits from TR and the fight is made right away for the SWW title. We can't bring up Cotto anymore.

            And of Floyd is ducking Pac, than Pac ducked him for 2 years by refusing testing for 2 straight years. It goes both ways.

            Sven avoided Calzaghe, that's proven.

            Calzaghe didn't duck Jones when theyw ere a divsion apart in the late 90's but he sure as hell didn't go out of his way to make it happen. The one with Joe was when Chad Dawson wanted to fight him, but he opted to fight a way way way faded Roy instead. That was bad.

            Bowe avoiding Lewis was the worst by far. Robbed us of what would have been one of the biggest HW showdown's in the 90's hands down.
            Last edited by 4Corners; 05-17-2012, 03:14 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by frosty-g View Post
              where is "pacquiao ducking mayweather" in your list?!

              I don't like Pac, I dont really like Floyd. But I honestly think it's more like

              Bob Arum ducking Mayweather...

              I think Pac is a ****ing pitbull he will just go on the attack and fight whoever

              Michael Vic (bob arum) wants .

              Bob dont wanna

              send his pitbull against

              the Alaskan Timberwolf
              (floyd)

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              • #47
                Ray Leonard didn't duck Pryor at all, just a myth spawned by Legendary Nights, in the post fight interview of the Pryor vs Blackmoore fight Pryor said that Leonard offered him a bout and a career high pay day but Pryor turned it down, turned out too be a wise move because of the Arguello pay days.

                Are you really calling Leonard having a 5 year lay off because of injury, avoiding Hagler ?.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by NChristo View Post
                  Ray Leonard didn't duck Pryor at all, just a myth spawned by Legendary Nights, in the post fight interview of the Pryor vs Blackmoore fight Pryor said that Leonard offered him a bout and a career high pay day but Pryor turned it down, turned out too be a wise move because of the Arguello pay days.

                  Are you really calling Leonard having a 5 year lay off because of injury, avoiding Hagler ?.
                  I'm a parrot

                  I'm not calling shyt

                  the only person I even like on that entire list is Lennox Lewis
                  i'M JUST parroting what media boxing fans etc say

                  most of it could be myth

                  some of it could be true

                  some of it could be made up

                  but it is perceived by at least a significant portion. enough to make a list

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
                    Leonard didn't avoid Hagler until he was old, Hagler was still the MW champ and one of the top fighters in the world. And Hagler was MW, Leonard was a WW, enough said. He never had to fight him, just like Floyd and Manny don't have to fight Sergio, who's a full fledge MW.

                    And Floyd didn't "duck" Paul Williams man. Williams didn't even get a good win until 2007 and got upset by Quintana in 2008, beat him in a rematch, and than moved up in weight.

                    And Leonard didn't duck Aaron Pryor. Leonard offered Pryor a fight in the 80's and Pryor turned it down.

                    Mayweather, you could argue that he found a way around Margarito because he knew he would fight Oscar in a mega fight in 07'. But when he was offered that fight after splitting from Bob Arum, Arum couldn't guarantee Floyd the money he wanted. He ended up fighting Oscar and Hatton in much bigger fights for much more money. It's hard to say Floyd ducked anyone with Bob Arum when we know how Bob Arum operates.

                    And as for Floyd not fighting Cotto in his prime and only past his prime-still good, how is that totally Floyd??? Floyd wanted to fight Cotto during 05-06 when both were TR, but TR said flat out "Cotto isn't ready for Floyd". Only when Floyd talked up retiring in 07' after splitting from TR in 06' did everyone start saying he was avoiding him. Cotto himself even said he wasn't pursuing a Floyd fight at all. Cotto splits from TR and the fight is made right away for the SWW title. We can't bring up Cotto anymore.

                    And of Floyd is ducking Pac, than Pac ducked him for 2 years by refusing testing for 2 straight years. It goes both ways.

                    Sven avoided Calzaghe, that's proven.

                    Calzaghe didn't duck Jones when theyw ere a divsion apart in the late 90's but he sure as hell didn't go out of his way to make it happen. The one with Joe was when Chad Dawson wanted to fight him, but he opted to fight a way way way faded Roy instead. That was bad.

                    Bowe avoiding Lewis was the worst by far. Robbed us of what would have been one of the biggest HW showdown's in the 90's hands down.

                    Great post. Great info

                    I didn't know Calzaghe and Dawson

                    I always thought, Calzaghe avoided Dawson after Jones because Joe wanted to retire. Which is very understandable

                    I didn't know that he picked Roy instead of Dawson

                    in the first place


                    Joe should have picked Dawson instead, that is bullshyt

                    But i GET where he's coming from. RJJ was the bigger name

                    he still is, which just goes to show you how small of a marketing person Dawson is

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                    • #50
                      Hatton ducking Witter like the plaque, getting his lawyers to send Witter a letter saying he cant mention hatton's name etc, Now thats a duck!!!

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