Why So Much Kirkland love here???

[Roman Moreno]

its the damn red hair pinche ginger

It has to be cuz' there is nothing "real deal" about him just yet. Now can he develop to something? Sure, but is he there yet? Nope. Is he trying to get there right now? Nope. Not with the opponents that they have been feeding him.

Canelo is the real deal JRosales13.. Dude they banned you and you still on here, they dont like you on here, just go away!!!

First of all Pot. Kettle. black. Because, I remember when you were banned.

Secondly, I have never been banned in my life. The J-ro account is still active. No mods have ever felt the need to block me. Try again though.

[Roman Moreno]

I'm not a fan of his, but have you seen him fight? He's pretty ****ing solid.

I seen him fight since the Larry Mosley fight. Joel Julio seemed "pretty F'ing solid" at one point. What happened when he stepped up in level of comp? Need to see how he does when he steps up. At least Kirkland has stepped up. They protected Canelo from Angulo. WBC and GBP didn't want Angulo anywhere near Canelo. And, you need to ask yourself why were they so worried to put Canelo in the ring with Angulo. Before thinking that he is F'ing solid because he beats up shot to pieces fighters and overblown LW's and WW's.

[Mars Volta]

I seen him fight since the Larry Mosley fight. Joel Julio seemed "pretty F'ing solid" at one point. What happened when he stepped up in level of comp? Need to see how he does when he steps up. At least Kirkland has stepped up. They protected Canelo from Angulo. WBC and GBP didn't want Angulo anywhere near Canelo. And, you need to ask yourself why were they so worried to put Canelo in the ring with Angulo. Before thinking that he is F'ing solid because he beats up shot to pieces fighters and overblown LW's and WW's.

so much fail here......

kirkland has stepped up cuz he is damn near 30! while alvarez is 21! and fans of roman fuccen gonzalez shouldn't be talking about other fighters stepping up when that mofo fights bums and hasn't even tried or expressed to fight the best fighters in his division

and who the hell needs to be protected from angulo? the best fighter he faced was cintron and lost whilst canelo TKO'd his asss

[Roman Moreno]

So much fail here.

so much fail here......

kirkland has stepped up cuz he is damn near 30! while alvarez is 21! and fans of roman fuccen gonzalez shouldn't be talking about other fighters stepping up when that mofo fights bums and hasn't even tried or expressed to fight the best fighters in his division

Again, why would you discuss a fighter that you have no clue about. Again don't look at boxrec and thinking that you know about a fighter and his resume. Again stick to fighters you see on HBO and Showtime. The rest don't even mention.

Roman Goznalez has been wanting to unify with Solis. Beat Garcia who was top 10 in his division. And, Reveco ducked his ass very blatantly.

When Chocolatito was 21 he had already beaten Niida. Not only beat Niida but destroyed him. In Niida hometown of Japan. Then also beat Takayama while 21. Just those 2 kills Canelo whole resume. And it's not even close.

And, yes there have been talks about Chocolatito vs Viloria at 112 from both sides opening an HBO B.A.D card. So it has been expressed and you would have known this. If you actually try to follow "obscure fighters"

and who the hell needs to be protected from angulo? the best fighter he faced was cintron and lost whilst canelo TKO'd his asss

More importantly than who is when. The when always matters more than the who. Don't make that noob casual fans mistake. It matter more for Pac to beat Mosley in 2009 because in 2011 it didn't matter beating Mosley just an example as how the when is more important than the who.

And, yes GBP and the WBC protected Canelo from Angulo. That can't be argued. They also protected Canelo from Trout after Trout beat his brother up. Canelo called him out wanted to avenge the loss. Trout accepted it. Was even willing to make the fight in Mexico like he did with Rigoberto and take short money. And, like always went another direction. So yes protected.

Surprise you didn't know this since you follow HBO fighters. But, then again maybe you're blinded by la raza.

[Mars Volta]

So much fail here.



Again, why would you discuss a fighter that you have no clue about. Again don't look at boxrec and thinking that you know about a fighter and his resume. Again stick to fighters you see on HBO and Showtime. The rest don't even mention.

Roman Goznalez has been wanting to unify with Solis. Beat Garcia who was top 10 in his division. And, Reveco ducked his ass very blatantly.

When Chocolatito was 21 he had already beaten Niida. Not only beat Niida but destroyed him. In Niida hometown of Japan. Then also beat Takayama while 21. Just those 2 kills Canelo whole resume. And it's not even close.

And, yes there have been talks about Chocolatito vs Viloria at 112 from both sides opening an HBO B.A.D card. So it has been expressed and you would have known this. If you actually try to follow "obscure fighters"



More importantly than who is when. The when always matters more than the who. Don't make that noob casual fans mistake. It matter more for Pac to beat Mosley in 2009 because in 2011 it didn't matter beating Mosley just an example as how the when is more important than the who.

And, yes GBP and the WBC protected Canelo from Angulo. That can't be argued. They also protected Canelo from Trout after Trout beat his brother up. Canelo called him out wanted to avenge the loss. Trout accepted it. Was even willing to make the fight in Mexico like he did with Rigoberto and take short money. And, like always went another direction. So yes protected.

Surprise you didn't know this since you follow HBO fighters. But, then again maybe you're blinded by la raza.

roman gonzalez is decent fighter...nothing special though the average 6th grader weighs more then him maybe that's why i don't follow him? and he can EXPRESS all he wants but the fact of the matter is he hasn't unified he can continue to fight at parking lots and get paid chump change for all i care

and lol at using the excuse of him not fighting on showtime or HBO for YOUR reasoning that i say he's not that good........brian villoria,segura, and calderon all rarely fought on those networks but i know there good fighters cuz they proved it! unlike gonzalez

[Roman Moreno]

roman gonzalez is decent fighter...nothing special though the average 6th grader weighs more then him maybe that's why i don't follow him? and he can EXPRESS all he wants but the fact of the matter is he hasn't unified he can continue to fight at parking lots and get paid chump change for all i care

and lol at using the excuse of him not fighting on showtime or HBO for YOUR reasoning that i say he's not that good........brian villoria,segura, and calderon all rarely fought on those networks but i know there good fighters cuz they proved it! unlike gonzalez

But, they have right?

How did Calderon prove it? You talked about unifying as way to diss Roman also about 6th graders weighing more than him. But, yet Calderon proved it? I missed it when did he unify and when did he weigh more than a 6th grader?

[Mars Volta]

But, they have right?

How did Calderon prove it? You talked about unifying as way to diss Roman also about 6th graders weighing more than him. But, yet Calderon proved it? I missed it when did he unify and when did he weigh more than a 6th grader?

his wins over cazares or whatever his name is and his win over mayol too

[Roman Moreno]

his wins over cazares or whatever his name is and his win over mayol too

You hold no weight that the 2nd fight with Cazarez and the 2nd fight with Mayol, where stopped prematurely cuz' of clash of heads?

Also that all 4 fights where in his comfort zone in Puerto Rico. And, that's only 2 fights you named out of his whole career. Also Mayol had a record of 3-3 going into the the fights with Calderon.

I'm curios to what makes Mayol better than Takayama let alone Niida. I don't think you know who Niida was either, maybe too "obscure for you" and both those fights happened in Japan. No premature stoppage in either fight either mind you.

Anyways Calderon never unified, which is something you knocked Gonzalez for. Double standards and agenda cuz' he is in my avi perhaps? i believe so.

Seriously though you could only name 2 fighters out of his whole resume from a guy that "actually proved it" is crazy to me. I thought you were going to give me a list a names. just 2? And, one of those names was "or whatever his name is" But, oh well.

[Mars Volta]

You hold no weight that the 2nd fight with Cazarez and the 2nd fight with Mayol, where stopped prematurely cuz' of clash of heads?

Also that all 4 fights where in his comfort zone in Puerto Rico. And, that's only 2 fights you named out of his whole career. Also Mayol had a record of 3-3 going into the the fights with Calderon.

I'm curios to what makes Mayol better than Takayama let alone Niida. I don't think you know who Niida was either, maybe too "obscure for you" and both those fights happened in Japan. No premature stoppage in either fight either mind you.

Anyways Calderon never unified, which is something you knocked Gonzalez for. Double standards and agenda cuz' he is in my avi perhaps? i believe so.

Seriously though you could only name 2 fighters out of his whole resume from a guy that "actually proved it" is crazy to me. I thought you were going to give me a list a names. just 2? And, one of those names was "or whatever his name is" But, oh well.

He at least tried to unify with segura even though he was past his prime....

and lol at you trying to discredit his wins cuz they were in PR but at least they were vs real live dogs unlike gonzalez goes to Mexico and fights bums

so go ahead and nuthug that little midget that weighs less then a healthy 6th grader lol

[Roman Moreno]

He at least tried to unify with segura even though he was past his prime....

and lol at you trying to discredit his wins cuz they were in PR but at least they were vs real live dogs unlike gonzalez goes to Mexico and fights bums

so go ahead and nuthug that little midget that weighs less then a healthy 6th grader lol

Like you're Calderong and Segura right now? Pot.Kettle. Black

And, Lol, at trying actually meaning something now. A few posts ago, trying meant shit, you had to do it. But, oh well.

Actually I'm not discrediting his wins at all. Unlike you, who are trying to discredit good wins. And, unlike you I take everything into account. There is a reason why some fighters don't want to go to other people countries. Because, it's harder to get a W there. Maybe you don't know or see that. But, it's always a possibility of shenanigans happening.

My point is that at 21 Roman went to Japan and beat two top rated guys Niida was veteran title holder and got destroyed by chocolatito. Takayama wasn't a bum by any means. Garcia wasn't a bum either. Matter of fact Niida> Mayol, Garcia = just as good as anyone on Calderon resume not named Cazarez or Mayol. Niida might be just as good of a win as Cazarez. Again it's clear when you speak about boxers you don't know. So why even try? At least ask questions first and try to learn.

But, I concede overall resume wise.

Calderon has the better one right now but not by much. However, Roman resume is far and beyond better than Canelo. Even at Roman at 21 was far and beyond better.