“Fighting Words” – Jermain Taylor: Undisputed, Undeserving

[vB Martin]

And opinion with little fact is editorializing, not journalism.

[Dirt E Gomez]

And opinion with little fact is editorializing, not journalism.

You're correct, but this article clearly isn't a case of it. The 2nd, 3rd, and 3rd to last paragraphs are the only things which contain more about opinions based on facts instead of pure facts. But as I said, what can you write about Jermain Taylor that's possible for praise other than urking out decisions against a 40 year old B-Hop?

[Grimgash]

I'm not cryin at all. Neither of them were impressive. They both lied about "going all out" for the "knockout". Stay the **** out of my pm box talking about "I would love to meet you face to face to discuss this
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I havent said **** bad about your hometown boy, aside from he was lackluster, as was Hopkins. I'd be impressed with him, if he would have been impressive. Keep your suggestive e-threats the **** out my pm box.

Godzhand just in case you didn't read real interviews, aka. non promtion bull**** talk, Taylor never said he was going for a knockout. What he wanted to do he didn't come close but he said..and I quote "I'm just going out there to win all 12 rounds, and if a knockout comes I'll take it." Hopkins is the only one who said he WOULD knock him out.

[STEELHEAD]

i don't think peoples give hopkins enough credit. he's made everyone in recent times look bad with his plodding style and gameplan. so i got to give the still anxious mistake ridden taylor acculades for hanging with and defeating the master especialy in first fight where taylor suffered concussion and was still able to hang and win.taylors the only one in recent times that has beaten hopkins fighting hopkins fight.

i think there's a chance that we'll see taylor fight a different fight against other challengers.

taylor will be the biggest and strongest opponent winky has ever faced.

and winky will be 35 next year.

imo winkys ringmanship and slickness will give taylor fits for only so long before he starts steamrolling thru him.i just see winky having a hard time trying to hurt taylor.but he could definitely out slick and out box taylor. especialy if taylors trainer can't get him to stop making the same mistakes like throwing anxious glancing blows and ****ing his right and leaving his left down like in first and second hop fight.maybe its time for taylor to get rid of his hometown trainer and get someone else.

if taylor is good enough to beat hopkins with all his flaws think how good he can be if he fixes his mistakes.awesome at 160.

[psychopath]

i don't think peoples give hopkins enough credit. he's made everyone in recent times look bad with his plodding style and gameplan. so i got to give the still anxious mistake ridden taylor acculades for hanging with and defeating the master especialy in first fight where taylor suffered concussion and was still able to hang and win.taylors the only one in recent times that has beaten hopkins fighting hopkins fight.

i think there's a chance that we'll see taylor fight a different fight against other challengers.

taylor will be the biggest and strongest opponent winky has ever faced.

and winky will be 35 next year.

imo winkys ringmanship and slickness will give taylor fits for only so long before he starts steamrolling thru him.i just see winky having a hard time trying to hurt taylor.but he could definitely out slick and out box taylor. especialy if taylors trainer can't get him to stop making the same mistakes like throwing anxious glancing blows and ****ing his right and leaving his left down like in first and second hop fight.maybe its time for taylor to get rid of his hometown trainer and get someone else.

if taylor is good enough to beat hopkins with all his flaws think how good he can be if he fixes his mistakes.awesome at 160.

That's right Taylor is ONLY fighter who has beaten Bhops in his own game reason why I can't see why people cannot give respect to the guy, instead we find articles that antagonizes him down to the lowest level.

I love this sports and I love anything that's good for it. I don't hate Bhops or any fighter for that matter it's just that I think Taylor accomplished what seems to be impossible and he deserves phrases for having the balls to go for it not insults.

[BSD]

I agree with the article. Hopkins was robbed twice. Taylor's swollen eye and bloody nose are souvenirs of his spanking by the master. The judges should be forced to watch the fight through monitors and watch slow motion replays so they can see that the most impressive combos thrown by Taylor didn't even make contact. Hopkins set the pace and fought more agressively. He wasn't beat by Taylor. He was beat by the judges.

[tracylee]

Jermain Taylor, having defeated longtime great Bernard Hopkins on two consecutive occasions, is the undisputed middleweight champion.

He is also unimpressive, underwhelming and undeserving.

He is a champion of circumstance, a hero of happenstance, a man whose career has been advanced by favorable promoting by Lou DiBella and the suits at HBO, as well as by his amiable personality and admirable pedigree.

For his first twenty fights, Taylor preyed on undersized, lesser talented lambs, victims in preparation of his future coronation, a destiny that seemed certainty as time passed, as Hopkins aged and his planned retirement approached.

The 2000 Olympic bronze medalist stepped up his opposition in the summer of 2004, stopping former junior middleweight Raul Marquez – who subsequently retired – and then wrapping up the year with a shutout of William Joppy – who should’ve retired after the beating Hopkins had given him twelve months prior. [details]

Hmmm, just like the last article you did on this, you sound biased, upset, bitter and totally unprofessional. Hard to take you serious with that in consideration. Can a professional writer PLEASE post a good, FAIR and slightly accurate article on Jermain Taylors HUGE win?? Is that too much to ask?

[psychopath]

I agree with the article. Hopkins was robbed twice. Taylor's swollen eye and bloody nose are souvenirs of his spanking by the master. The judges should be forced to watch the fight through monitors and watch slow motion replays so they can see that the most impressive combos thrown by Taylor didn't even make contact. Hopkins set the pace and fought more agressively. He wasn't beat by Taylor. He was beat by the judges.

What fight did you watch?

[Dirt E Gomez]

Hmmm, just like the last article you did on this, you sound biased, upset, bitter and totally unprofessional. Hard to take you serious with that in consideration. Can a professional writer PLEASE post a good, FAIR and slightly accurate article on Jermain Taylors HUGE win?? Is that too much to ask?

So you want an article that sings the praises of Jermain Taylor and agrees with you.... what praises are there to give? He urked out wins that could have been given to Hopkins just as easily as Taylor. He did it in an unimpressive fashion that doesn't give people a lot of hope for him in the middleweight division.. especially against Winky. What is fair is saying that he won 2 lackluster fights with 2 lackluster endings at the end of Hopkin's career. If he had shown me something. If he had won a decisive decision... or even managed to hurt B-Hop once or twice I wouldn't be so depressed about it. Instead, we see the end of a great career and the soon to be short lived championship reign of an (in my eyes) undeserving champion.

[tracylee]

So you want an article that sings the praises of Jermain Taylor and agrees with you.... what praises are there to give? He urked out wins that could have been given to Hopkins just as easily as Taylor. He did it in an unimpressive fashion that doesn't give people a lot of hope for him in the middleweight division.. especially against Winky. What is fair is saying that he won 2 lackluster fights with 2 lackluster endings at the end of Hopkin's career. If he had shown me something. If he had won a decisive decision... or even managed to hurt B-Hop once or twice I wouldn't be so depressed about it. Instead, we see the end of a great career and the soon to be short lived championship reign of an (in my eyes) undeserving champion.

Not once have I posted I wanted an article that 'agreed with me' and sang taylors praises. What I wouldnt mind reading however, is how a young fighter with alot of skill yet room for improvement managed to do something that nobody else has been able to do in 10 long yr's, and thats beat Bernard Hopkins. Mentioning what this could mean for the division (a new champ that so far has avoided nobody instead of a guy that avoided many) and what it could POSSIBLY mean for the sport in general (some new blood, and someone thats not defense minded and is exciting when not fighting a defensive master) sure wouldnt hurt the article. Pointing out that the score was close is fair, bitching and crying that he didnt razzle-dazzle the masses, do backflips into the air while winning isnt..oh wait, thats putting words in your mouth (words you never said) which is pretty much the same thing you did when you replied to my post.
And, on a side note, you dont know how short his reign will be, but say you do with total conviction.