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“Fighting Words” – Jermain Taylor: Undisputed, Undeserving

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bloodshed
    Also, I think its unrealistic of the writer of that peice to complain about the fashion that Taylor beat Hopkins. I was telling Bomber, that this match would be a chess match mainly because Hopkins is that kind of fighter. He does not have that killer instinct like a Lacy.

    Taylor wasn't going to knock Hopkins out and I knew this. And Hopkins wasn't going to knock Lacy out. It's just not Hopkins style.

    So, for the writer to be surprised that the two bouts went 24 rounds, is truly beyond my comprehension.
    I assume you meant Taylor here.

    I agree with this...I enjoyed both fights and don't see any reason to complain about the fights being tacticall 12 round fights. The second was a bit more sloppy than the first, but both guys were trying to unload bigger punches on each other as well.

    Hopkins actually came decently close to getting Jermain in a position to knock him out in the first bout. He also had Taylor rocked in the 10th round of this bout. Hopkins definitely wants to knock people out, he just has a different way of pursuing it.

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    • #32
      I respect this dude's opinion/article and he tried keeping it "professional" but its clear to me he's not a fan of Taylor.

      And I might be called a hater, but I just don't think Taylor is as solid of a fighter you'd assume he'd have to be by beating Hopkins.

      I see Lacy destroying Taylor and Winky boring Taylor.
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      I assume you meant Taylor here.

      I agree with this...I enjoyed both fights and don't see any reason to complain about the fights being tacticall 12 round fights. The second was a bit more sloppy than the first, but both guys were trying to unload bigger punches on each other as well.

      Hopkins actually came decently close to getting Jermain in a position to knock him out in the first bout. He also had Taylor rocked in the 10th round of this bout. Hopkins definitely wants to knock people out, he just has a different way of pursuing it.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bloodshed
        I respect this dude's opinion/article and he tried keeping it "professional" but its clear to me he's not a fan of Taylor.

        And I might be called a hater, but I just don't think Taylor is as solid of a fighter you'd assume he'd have to be by beating Hopkins.

        I see Lacy destroying Taylor and Winky boring Taylor.
        Taylor is a big middleweight so Lacy wouldn't be that much bigger than him, but I do think for the most part that Lacys physicality would overwhelm Taylor. Lacy can be bothered by a stiff jab though.

        I'd make Taylor/Wright a pick'em fight. Taylor might have the length and activity level to outduel Winky, but I dunno.

        I still haven't been impressed by anything Taylor has done, but he does have a bright future ahead if he plays his cards correctly (ie stay away from Lacy).

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        • #34
          wow, lol, after reading all the responses.. i'da written the article just to get such a rise out of everyone.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by vB Martin
            Who are these "informed observers"?
            DLH is quoted as saying he believed Hopkins won by a point, as well as saying Mosely scored it 2 points to Hopkins. Many fans on this site who don't have their heads up their asses and are well informed, and opinionated also believe Hopkins won the fight.

            Originally posted by Tito Fan 83
            There is simply no way you can say Taylor is undeserving. None.
            I believe what he was pointing out is the fact that there are several other middleweights who have been at a higher leverl than Taylor for a good while but never got to fight Hopkins. Taylor was being molded so he could become champion by beating Joppy then having a worthless fight on Hop's undercard to show him off to the world. Granted this was my take on things, perhaps his is different.

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            • #36
              on the subject, i feel like other than me and Dirt E, there really aren't many people that thought Hopkins won, sticking up for their opinion here.. being bombarded by Taylor supporters is tough, but im not gonna hold back my opinion.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                DLH is quoted as saying he believed Hopkins won by a point, as well as saying Mosely scored it 2 points to Hopkins. Many fans on this site who don't have their heads up their asses and are well informed, and opinionated also believe Hopkins won the fight.



                I believe what he was pointing out is the fact that there are several other middleweights who have been at a higher leverl than Taylor for a good while but never got to fight Hopkins. Taylor was being molded so he could become champion by beating Joppy then having a worthless fight on Hop's undercard to show him off to the world. Granted this was my take on things, perhaps his is different.
                900 mil, ****. Since your from Wisconsin:

                9000000.00 points donated to Dirt E Gomez successfully!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by restless_438
                  on the subject, i feel like other than me and Dirt E, there really aren't many people that thought Hopkins won, sticking up for their opinion here.. being bombarded by Taylor supporters is tough, but im not gonna hold back my opinion.

                  I dont care about being bombarded by anyone, I think Hopkins won both fights, just barely. Taylor won, good for him, let's hope he can win convincingly next time he defends the crown.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by GodzHand
                    I dont care about being bombarded by anyone, I think Hopkins won both fights, just barely. Taylor won, good for him, let's hope he can win convincingly next time he defends the crown.
                    that's all i'm saying as well

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GodzHand
                      900 mil, ****. Since your from Wisconsin:

                      9000000.00 points donated to Dirt E Gomez successfully!
                      Heh, thanks. It'll take a while to build it back up, but even if I knew he was going to lose I'd still have bet it all on B-Hop.

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