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  • rorymac
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    #131
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    You go past Hearns and Benitez, old Hagler and weight drained Duran, who have you got then.

    Drained Lalonde for two titles.

    Pacquiao is an 8 weight world champ, with HOFs Cotto, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, MAB, Morales, De La Hoya on his record.

    More HOfs than SRL

    Fact.
    Pacquiao beat nobody in the same league as Leonard's top 4 wins.

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    • D4thincarnation
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      #132
      Originally posted by Roman Moreno
      Morales was just as weight drained. That is why he wanted 132 cuz' he couldn't make 130.

      Oscar was even more weight drained than Duran....Duran lost fat going into the SRL fight. Morales and Oscar lost fat and muscle going into the Pac fight.

      No one had to inject Duran with IV's at the day of the fight. Unlike with Oscar.

      That win of Duran is a better win than the ones I mentioned.

      That win of Hagler is a better win that the ones I mentioned. And, especially considering that SRL was coming off 3yr inactivity....Lets not even mention that right and had never fought at 160

      You have Benitez and Hearns.

      Kalule underrated win for SRL and Lalonde. Is a better win that the ones that I mentioned.

      Armando Muñiz and Floyd Sr are better wins than the ones I mentioned.

      Quality>>>>Quantity. SRL has enough quantity wins and exceptionally quality wins that there is no way you can rank Pac inferior resume close to SRL.
      Duran was a shell, he had lost water, was being fed diuretics and not training on a crash diet. Lost over 60lbs in a couple of months.

      Lalonde a light heavy, made to come in under the supermiddle weight limit for his Light-heavy title.

      And you have the cheek to tell me about Pacquiao's catchweight titles.

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        #133
        Originally posted by Roman Moreno
        Morales was just as weight drained. That is why he wanted 132 cuz' he couldn't make 130.

        Oscar was even more weight drained than Duran....Duran lost fat going into the SRL fight. Morales and Oscar lost fat and muscle going into the Pac fight.

        No one had to inject Duran with IV's at the day of the fight. Unlike with Oscar.

        That win of Duran is a better win than the ones I mentioned.

        That win of Hagler is a better win that the ones I mentioned. And, especially considering that SRL was coming off 3yr inactivity....Lets not even mention that right and had never fought at 160

        You have Benitez and Hearns.

        Kalule underrated win for SRL and Lalonde. Is a better win that the ones that I mentioned.

        Armando Muñiz and Floyd Sr are better wins than the ones I mentioned.

        Quality>>>>Quantity. SRL has enough quantity wins and exceptionally quality wins that there is no way you can rank Pac inferior resume close to SRL.


        agreed 1000% not taking any thing from pac but srl has the better resume

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        • FUC_U_PAYME
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          #134
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Duran was a shell, he had lost water, was being fed diuretics and not training on a crash diet. Lost over 60lbs in a couple of months.

          Lalonde a light heavy, made to come in under the supermiddle weight limit for his Light-heavy title.

          And you have the cheek to tell me about Pacquiao's catchweight titles.

          oscar had not been under 150 in years come on man i know you love pac its alright if you think srl has a better resume

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            #135
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            Duran was a shell, he had lost water, was being fed diuretics and not training on a crash diet. Lost over 60lbs in a couple of months.
            Did Duran ask for the fight to be at a higher weight cuz he couldn't make the weight limit? Nope. So he wasn't as drained as Morales.

            They had to inject Oscar with IV's on fight night. Because, he was so drained. So spare me, with your noob ass excuses.

            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            Lalonde a light heavy, made to come in under the supermiddle weight limit for his Light-heavy title.

            And you have the cheek to tell me about Pacquiao's catchweight titles.

            When did I ever mentioned Pac, catch-weight titles? Go get that post? Yea and you have the cheek to try and speak boxing and it's history with me?

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              #136
              Originally posted by Roman Moreno
              Did Duran ask for the fight to be at a higher weight cuz he couldn't make the weight limit? Nope. So he wasn't as drained as Morales.

              They had to inject Oscar with IV's on fight night. Because, he was so drained. So spare me, with your noob ass excuses.



              When did I ever mentioned Pac, catch-weight titles? Go get that post? Yea and you have the cheek to try and speak boxing and it's history with me?

              I stopped listening to that gy a long time ago. He's the same guy that said jabs don't count.

              The fact is no matter what Floyd or Pac do, they will never be hgiher all-time than Ray Leonard. There is nothing they can do in my eyes to get there. I have them both around Top 30 or so, but Ray is significantly much higher to me. Even if Floyd beats Pac/Sergio along with other good wins, he's not getting quite as high up as Ray is. And even if Pac beats a Bradley and than Floyd, he's not getting that high either.
              Last edited by 4Corners; 05-15-2012, 09:29 AM.

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                #137
                8 weight World champ.

                Leonard would have gone up to heavyweight to match that.

                Leonard had to great wins over Benitez and Hearns but didn't really have to many other great wins after that.

                Leonard was only ever really a force at welter and and light-middle, never dominated at any other weight or did anything other than pick up trinket titles.

                Pacquiao has the much greater longevity.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by FUC_U_PAYME
                  oscar had not been under 150 in years come on man i know you love pac its alright if you think srl has a better resume
                  60lbs > 3lbs

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                    #139
                    I've got SRL around the 20 mark on my ATG list.

                    Pacquiao is higher.

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                    • rorymac
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      8 weight World champ.

                      Leonard would have gone up to heavyweight to match that.

                      Leonard had to great wins over Benitez and Hearns but didn't really have to many other great wins after that.

                      Leonard was only ever really a force at welter and and light-middle, never dominated at any other weight or did anything other than pick up trinket titles.

                      Pacquiao has the much greater longevity.
                      8 weight World champ.

                      Leonard would have gone up to heavyweight to match that.
                      This is a redundant point mate, it's a completely different idea. When you're starting around Bantam, it's easier to move up because the distance between each weight class is much smaller. So you're saying, for Leonard to be considered better than Pac, he should have gained 60lbs while Pac gained about 35??

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