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  • #31
    They should take the PPV and gate nmbers starting when both fought Oscar De La Hoya, that's when both became HUGE stars. But Manny fans won't want to do that, because Floyd-Oscar did twice the PPV's that Pac-Oscar did, and is the highest grossing boxing event of all-time.

    Take Floyd's fights with Oscar, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, and Cotto, and average those numbers out to a per fight basis.

    Take Pac's fights with Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, Marquez, and Bradley, average those numbers out on a per fight basis.

    Let who ever generates the most revenue get that much more of split. That's the most fair and unbias way to do it.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Gino Ros View Post
      Pac- Mosley: 950K
      Pac-JMM3 : 825K


      CHALLENGE: Show the HBO official numbers with revenues to prove otherwise.
      Pac - Mosley was in Showtime NOT HBO, so what your asking IS IMPOSSIBLE. A boxing fan following the sport KNOWS this.

      Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
      God people are ****** thinking any fighter would agree to 45-45 and the winner gets the last 10. A lot could happen to prevent the real winner from actually being the winner. What about bad judging, DQ's, a TD because of a headbutt or something, that's never going to happen.

      What's funny is that people think the guy who generates more revenue shouldn't get a higher split. I'd be fine if they agreed to 50-50, that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. 55-45 would be fine too, based on revenue that both generate. 60-40 is too steep though.
      Mayweather should have NOTHING wrong with a True Prize fight 45-45 split with the winner getting the rest 10%, the spoils of battle. He's a gambler after all. If his fans have as much faith in him, then they should convince him to bet on himself. Why does Mayweather gamble millions on sports but won't gamble and place a bet on himself, its "easy work" ain't it?

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      • #33
        As we all know, Shaefer is Mayweather's b!tch...

        Anything Floyd says, he'll follow! If Floyd say jump, roll over, sit he'll do it!

        No wonder this fight hasn't come close to happening...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by RajahBell View Post
          Pac - Mosley was in Showtime NOT HBO, so what your asking IS IMPOSSIBLE. A boxing fan following the sport KNOWS this.



          Mayweather should have NOTHING wrong with a True Prize fight 45-45 split with the winner getting the rest 10%, the spoils of battle. He's a gambler after all. If his fans have as much faith in him, then they should convince him to bet on himself. Why does Mayweather gamble millions on sports but won't gamble and place a bet on himself, its "easy work" ain't it?
          No prize fighter is going to agree to that, no one. Sure, I'd like it, as would most fans, but ask any fighter themselves while they are sitting at the negotiating table, and they wouldn't do it. Can you imagine if Abril-Rios was a PPV fight and they did that, Abril would feel cheated as hell. No proze fighter is going to do that.

          Add up the revenue both generate once they fought Oscar, and average out the numbers based on per fight, that's the most fair and unbias way to do it. If Manny is as big or bigger of a draw revenue wise, than why you have a problem with that???

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          • #35
            Schaefers idea will actually benefit Pacquaio as he's had more ppv fights within the last 5yrs resulting in a higher # of total purchases than Floyd. Its also been reported that Pac consistantly does a higher gate than Floyd at the MGM.

            Something tells me that Floyd is not happy with Schaefer right now. By opening the books and doing a comparison, Floyd loses his argument on why Pac should get cut out of the ppv profits.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
              You really are an idiot, I forgot *****s have little logic about boxing, you are not worth it. I have used facts to prove your wrong, yet you continue to spout ****e

              One last statement to own you again

              Bloomberg ranked PAC higher based on marketability, performance and popularity. There is a legit source which ranks Pac higher, so once again, you are being proved wrong.

              All you are riding on is Floyd **** like the Yessir and Flints of this forum, pathetic.
              sigh -_-

              wtf did anything that you just wrote have to do with what I just said? Lmao. Whatever, man. You people get worse and worse by the day.

              Let me guess: You're also one of the people that listed Canelo and Cotto as major reasons that Mayweather/Cotto did so well, right?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                Schaefers idea will actually benefit Pacquaio as he's had more ppv fights within the last 5yrs resulting in a higher # of total purchases than Floyd. Its also been reported that Pac consistantly does a higher gate than Floyd at the MGM.

                Something tells me that Floyd is not happy with Schaefer right now. By opening the books and doing a comparison, Floyd loses his argument on why Pac should get cut out of the ppv profits.
                It would be on a per fight basis obviously. And Pac does sell more tickets, but Floyd's ticket revenues are usually higher because his prices are higher.

                They should add up all the revenue based on PPV's and ticket sales starting with when both fought Oscar, which made them mega stars, and average them out on a per fight basis to see who generates more. That's really the most fair thing to do.

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                • #38
                  Actually, Floyd's ppv numbers are high because : people pay to see his foe ( Oscar, Cotto ), people pay to see him lose ( the minute he loses his 0 he'll have less buyers), he's American so the media overhypes him and the public buys it. Also, people pay to watch the undercard ( Canelo for instance) Paquiao has a real interbational as well as an American fan base. Floyd is good but not that good, he is like a WWE character.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
                    No prize fighter is going to agree to that, no one. Sure, I'd like it, as would most fans, but ask any fighter themselves while they are sitting at the negotiating table, and they wouldn't do it. Can you imagine if Abril-Rios was a PPV fight and they did that, Abril would feel cheated as hell. No proze fighter is going to do that.

                    Add up the revenue both generate once they fought Oscar, and average out the numbers based on per fight, that's the most fair and unbias way to do it. If Manny is as big or bigger of a draw revenue wise, than why you have a problem with that???
                    Pacquiao proposed it and willing to do it and he doesn't gamble millions on sports like Mayweather. So you have to ask yourself, Why doesn't a GAMBLER like Mayweather place a bet on himself, even with all the variables?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
                      It would be on a per fight basis obviously. And Pac does sell more tickets, but Floyd's ticket revenues are usually higher because his prices are higher.

                      They should add up all the revenue based on PPV's and ticket sales starting with when both fought Oscar, which made them mega stars, and average them out on a per fight basis to see who generates more. That's really the most fair thing to do.
                      Based upon reported figures for both fighters, this will justify about a 60/40 ppv split in favor of Floyd. Will Floyd do it? It's a big difference from the 100/0 ppv split that Floyd is standing firm on.

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