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  • Poet682006
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    #111
    Originally posted by Andyreww
    Tyson is a poor boxer, he's a little technical ability, I never said he was a good boxer? he is though an absoulete animal and wins his fights on that.

    Mayweather is one of the greatest of all time technically as a boxer, and regardless if you think Compubox is accurate or not, he has a higher plus/minus than Hearns Duran and Leonard combined.
    Were in that post did I say "boxer"? I said FIGHTER.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Andyreww
      Tyson is a poor boxer, he's a little technical ability, I never said he was a good boxer? he is though an absoulete animal and wins his fights on that.

      Mayweather is one of the greatest of all time technically as a boxer, and regardless if you think Compubox is accurate or not, he has a higher plus/minus than Hearns Duran and Leonard combined.
      Using compubox and plus /minus theroies is almost as ******ed as

      triangle theories ..

      lol..

      I JUST THOUGHT OF ANOTHER CLEVER POLL but ill make it tommorw.



      You are wrong though. Out of the Fab four. the only guy Floyd will beat more then 50% of the time is Duran.

      Even the craziest Floyd Fans will not favor Money May over Tommy Hearns.

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        #113
        Originally posted by TheHayeMaker
        lol I'm sorry

        it is just very hard to imagine how Floyd can beat Tommy Hearns at 147 lol
        Sure, it would be hard with his long jab, but I've always said this, he always finds a way to get the job done. Always, no matter what style

        He's fought brawlers, boxers, big fighters, small fighters, Fighters with long jabs.

        He's never been beaten so you can't really say how much talent he has or who he'd lose against to be honest, until we have someone who beats him and sets a benchmark and hes past his prime, so we'll never know, he has another year tops left.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Andyreww
          Tyson is a poor boxer, he's a little technical ability, I never said he was a good boxer? he is though an absoulete animal and wins his fights on that.

          Mayweather is one of the greatest of all time technically as a boxer, and regardless if you think Compubox is accurate or not, he has a higher plus/minus than Hearns Duran and Leonard combined.
          PS. Plus/Minus is even more irrelevant in boxing than it is in hockey.

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            #115
            Originally posted by poet682006
            Were in that post did I say "boxer"? I said FIGHTER.
            So where did I say Floyd was the best FIGHTER?

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              #116
              Originally posted by Andyreww
              Sure, it would be hard with his long jab, but I've always said this, he always finds a way to get the job done. Always, no matter what style

              He's fought brawlers, boxers, big fighters, small fighters, Fighters with long jabs.

              He's never been beaten so you can't really say how much talent he has or who he'd lose against to be honest, until we have someone who beats him and sets a benchmark and hes past his prime, so we'll never know, he has another year tops left.
              And Floyd has never fought anyone anywhere near Hearns' league so can't say with any honesty that Floyd could beat him.

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                #117
                Originally posted by TheHayeMaker
                Using compubox and plus /minus theroies is almost as ******ed as

                triangle theories ..

                lol..

                I JUST THOUGHT OF ANOTHER CLEVER POLL but ill make it tommorw.



                You are wrong though. Out of the Fab four. the only guy Floyd will beat more then 50% of the time is Duran.

                Even the craziest Floyd Fans will not favor Money May over Tommy Hearns.
                How is that as bad as triangle theorys?

                a fight is scored on effective aggressiveness and clean accurate punches and a good defense

                no?

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by poet682006
                  And Floyd has never fought anyone anywhere near Hearns' league so can't say with any honesty that Floyd could beat him.
                  Hearns is an ATG no doubt.

                  I didn't say for certain that Floyd defintely wins.

                  In my opinion, I think Floyd ALWAYS finds a way to get the job done, if you want to believe he's fought bums all his career believe it.

                  Floyd is an ATG and deserves to be mentioned in the same league as Sugar Ray, Hagler and Hearns.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Andyreww
                    Sure, it would be hard with his long jab, but I've always said this, he always finds a way to get the job done. Always, no matter what style

                    He's fought brawlers, boxers, big fighters, small fighters, Fighters with long jabs.

                    He's never been beaten so you can't really say how much talent he has or who he'd lose against to be honest, until we have someone who beats him and sets a benchmark and hes past his prime, so we'll never know, he has another year tops left.
                    Everybody that FLoyd beat. TOmmy Hearns would have beaten in a more brutal way.

                    Once again you can say that is 'speculation and fantasy matchups' but you saying Floyd can find a way to beat Hearns is also
                    speculation and fantasy matchups..

                    can a timberwolf beat a Velcrio Raptor

                    well..... most people say no

                    but the timberwolf's fans can say

                    WE NEVER SEEN A RAPTOR FIGHT A TIMBERWOLF

                    you dont really have to

                    it's just sort of common sense


                    If I have to compare Floyd and Hearns to animals though

                    it wont be a timberwolf nad raptor thats too big of a gap

                    Floyd to me is like a
                    hmmm

                    a ferret or a mongoose

                    Hearns is like a wolverine

                    Pacquaio is a grumpy badger
                    Last edited by TheHayeMaker; 05-12-2012, 08:30 PM.

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                    • Andyreww
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by TheHayeMaker
                      Everybody that FLoyd beat. TOmmy Hearns would have beaten in a more brutal way.

                      Once again you can say that is 'speculation and fantasy matchups' but you saying Floyd can find a way to beat Hearns is also
                      speculation and fantasy matchups..

                      can a timberwolf beat a Velcrio Raptor

                      well..... most people say no

                      but the timberwolf's fans can say

                      WE NEVER SEEN A RAPTOR FIGHT A TIMBERWOLF

                      you dont really have to

                      it's just sort of common sense


                      If I have to compare Floyd and Hearns to animals though

                      it wont be a timberwolf nad raptor thats too big of a gap

                      Floyd to me is like a
                      hmmm

                      a ferret or a mongoose

                      Hearns is like a wolverine

                      Pacquaio is a grumpy badger
                      So how do you know that Hearns opponents were better,

                      Explain to me excatly why Hearns beats Floyd, I'm not saying he wouldn't but you are so sure he wins, what does he do better against a prime Floyd Mayweather?

                      Corrales is also a TERRIBLE matchup for a fighter like Floyd, as is Hatton and we all saw what happened in those 2 fights.

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