The reality is Floyd sold more ppvs than Pacquiao against common opponents, period!
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Originally posted by WALTER WHITE View PostWhat are you talking about?
Pacquiao/Cotto did 1.25 million buys. HBO released those numbers. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4674275
HBO also released the numbers for Pacquiao/Margarito, which did 1.15 million buys. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=5842507
Showtime never released numbers for Pacquiao/Mosley. HBO didn't release the numbers for Pacquiao/Marquez III. Also take into consideration that HBO never released official numbers for Mayweather/Ortiz.
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Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View PostThanks. Now fans know why Pacquiao doesn't deserve 50/50. If those were Pacquiaos numbers compared to Floyds ppv numbers, Arum wouldn't give Floyd 50/50. I don't trust Fat Dan giving is Pacquiaos ppv numbers either.
If Pacquiao deserves 50/50, what would be your reason for Floyd giving Pacquiao 50/50?
This isn't rocket science.
More PPV buys + higher gate grosses + higher TV revenues = bigger draw.
The only statistic that Pacquiao has on his side is that he sells more tickets to his fights.
But yet the Pacstans can't handle facts, they only spout hearsay (Pacquiao is bigger WORLDWIDE, Canelo/Cotto/Mosley is the reason why the PPV did so well, etc.) but they can never back up their hearsay with articles, facts, and numbers. As I've written before, I'm not defending Floyd. Anybody who knows me on this board knows I don't even like Floyd. I'm just defending the proof that Floyd deserves the bigger split and is the bigger draw.
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Floyd self-appointed negotiators are all over the place. Total strangers want an undeserving part-time boxer gets the biggest slice of the pie. They keep insisting that the real mega star bow down to a mere 24/7 star. What a lucky guy Floyd is.
One thing is certain, though. JMM4 will surely happen now, the way I look at it.. So Pac would have two fights that would keep him occupied for the year. That would mean aside from getting a handsome amount from the Bradley fight, he'll get probably double that from another blockbuster hit, JMM4. I don't think he'll be like a penniless beggar and expect him to just bow down to a clown offering an insulting offer.
Think people, think.
Floyd I understand has one and a half year to decide whether to take on Pac or not. Let' see what happens.
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Originally posted by WALTER WHITE View PostPre-Cotto fight, I felt that 50/50 was fair. Post-Cotto, 60/40 - 55/45 is most fair for a split. Floyd has already outsold in PPV buys AND gate grosses against Pacquiao with 4 of the 5 same opponents. Yes, Pacquiao sells more tickets but he sells them at much lower prices than Floyd. More customers are willing to purchase tickets to Floyd's fights despite high prices meaning that he is a bigger draw.
This isn't rocket science.
More PPV buys + higher gate grosses + higher TV revenues = bigger draw.
The only statistic that Pacquiao has on his side is that he sells more tickets to his fights.
But yet the Pacstans can't handle facts, they only spout hearsay (Pacquiao is bigger WORLDWIDE, Canelo/Cotto/Mosley is the reason why the PPV did so well, etc.) but they can never back up their hearsay with articles, facts, and numbers. As I've written before, I'm not defending Floyd. Anybody who knows me on this board knows I don't even like Floyd. I'm just defending the proof that Floyd deserves the bigger split and is the bigger draw.
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Lol just weeks before Pacquiao vs Bradley, the whole first page of this forum is still talking about Mayweather vs Cotto. Pacquiao is that inferior. Therefore, just accept the 40 million.
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That's why shaefer expected 2million, GBP estimated Floyd should pull in 1m and Canelo Cotto, the undercard a cool million equals 2m..
GBP expecting 1m from Floyd to warrant the guarantee Floyd is getting, but if you do the math. Floyd pulled in only around 500-700k, that's disappointing coz GBP surely over paid Floyd.
GBP for sure got the bad end of the stick. The bottom of the barrel I must say. He has to pay 4 stars plus the undercard equals no earnings left for gbp.
While Floyd is running all the way to the bank..
Damn that's pretty disappionting for the promoters there giving Floyd so much cash when he is only pulling in 500-700 ppv..
Another highway robbery, this time it's schaefer and Dlh have to cringe giving him too much.
Feel sorry For DLH and Scahefer.
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Originally posted by WALTER WHITE View PostPre-Cotto fight, I felt that 50/50 was fair. Post-Cotto, 60/40 - 55/45 is most fair for a split. Floyd has already outsold in PPV buys AND gate grosses against Pacquiao with 4 of the 5 same opponents. Yes, Pacquiao sells more tickets but he sells them at much lower prices than Floyd. More customers are willing to purchase tickets to Floyd's fights despite high prices meaning that he is a bigger draw.
This isn't rocket science.
More PPV buys + higher gate grosses + higher TV revenues = bigger draw.
The only statistic that Pacquiao has on his side is that he sells more tickets to his fights.
But yet the Pacstans can't handle facts, they only spout hearsay (Pacquiao is bigger WORLDWIDE, Canelo/Cotto/Mosley is the reason why the PPV did so well, etc.) but they can never back up their hearsay with articles, facts, and numbers. As I've written before, I'm not defending Floyd. Anybody who knows me on this board knows I don't even like Floyd. I'm just defending the proof that Floyd deserves the bigger split and is the bigger draw.
Once again, if u run the #'s, you'll see Pac has generated more! If anything Pac is being generous by demanding a 50/50 split or better yet 45/55 with the winner getting 55.
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2009
1.Pacquiao-Cotto...............1.25M PPV ($70M).......($8.85M gate -crowd:15,930)
2.Mayweather-Marquez.......1.05M PPV ($52M).......($6.81M gate -crowd:13,116)
3.Pacquiao-Hatton..............850K PPV ($45M)........($8.83M gate -crowd:16,262)
2010
1.Mayweather-Mosley.........1.4M PPV ($78.3M)......($11.03M gate -crowd:15,117)
2.Pacquiao-Margarito..........1.15M PPV ($64M).......($5.4M gate -crowd:40,154)
3.Pacquiao-Clottey.............700K PPV ($35.3M)......($6.36M gate -crowd:41,843)
2011
1.Pacquiao-Marquez............1.41M PPV ($77.6M*)....($11.65M gate -crowd:16,389)
2.Mayweather-Ortiz............1.25M PPV ($78.4M)......($9M gate -crowd:14,687)
3.Pacquiao-Mosley..............1.1M~ PPV ($66M)........($8.88M gate -crowd:16,412)
*1.41M PPV x $54.95...PPV gross will be more taking into account HD buys at $64.95
~some reports have Pac-Mosley doing 1.3M PPV buys, including on the Ring website & Wikipedia
Crowds
2011
Pacquiao v Mosley.............16,412 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Marquez...........16,389 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Ortiz............14,687 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
2010
Pacquiao v Clottey.............41,843 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Pacquiao v Margarito..........40,154 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Mayweather v Mosley.........15,117 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
2009
Pacquiao v Hatton.............16,262 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Cotto...............15,930 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Marquez.......13,116 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR IS A COWARD! It's that simple...
Pacquiao has bend to every Mayweather previous demands...
But his new demand is impossible to meet!
Highest Paid Athlete from FORBES:
In 2011: Pacquiao is No. 25..... Mayweather out from Top 50.
In 2010: Pacquiao is No. 24..... Mayweather out as he didn't have a fight.
http://www.batangastoday.com/50-high...-forbes/13878/
OSCAR DE LA HOYA HIGHEST GUARANTEE WAS $33M...
Is Mayweather going to get a Guarantee of $50M by fighting opponent not Named Manny Pacquiao???? Certainly NOT... Not even $40M
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