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I read about 15 pages of posts on this story earlier today when I was bored at work. I now have a few observations of my own based on the posts that I read.
1. Those who are criticizing Mayweather because he only sold 1.5 million PPVs in the Cotto fight need to STFU. This fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in history and you haters are complaining and criticizing because he didn't sell 300,000 more. If the fight had sold 1.8 million, you would be complaining because it didn't break 2 million. It is childish and ******ed behavior.
2. In spite of what some of the gullible people on this site believe, Pac/Marquez did not sell 1.4 million PPVs and Pac/Mosley didn't come anywhere close to 1.3 million PPVs. The numbers for these two fights were never released by the cable networks because Bob Arum would not allow it and released his own numbers. Arum's numbers are always 400-500,000 more than he actual number, which means that Pac/Marquez probably didn't break 1 million and Pac/Mosley sold less than Pac/Clottey. Pac does not outsell Mayweather on PPV and Mayweather knows it because he knows what the numbers are. How, you ask? Because Arum has to report that info to Golden Boy because he has to pay GBP part of the profits from Pac's fights. He is not going to lie to GBP because that would mean he would have to pay them more money of the profits. GBP, in turn, provides Mayweather and his team with this informtion.
3. Cotto will end up making more in this fight as the B side fightger than Pac has ever made in his career as the A-side fighter. In spite of what Bob Arum claims, if it is not on paper in a contract, it is not guaranteed and Pac's guarantee have never exceeded $7 million. I am sure he makes a few million more on PPV sales, but he has never been paid $20 million for a fight, even with the PPV percentage and he has never received 50 percent of the PPV proceeds in fight under Bob Arum, even though he is demanding that from Mayweather.
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Originally posted by big_james10 View PostI read about 15 pages of posts on this story earlier today when I was bored at work. I now have a few observations of my own based on the posts that I read.
1. Those who are criticizing Mayweather because he only sold 1.5 million PPVs in the Cotto fight need to STFU. This fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in history and you haters are complaining and criticizing because he didn't sell 300,000 more. If the fight had sold 1.8 million, you would be complaining because it didn't break 2 million. It is childish and ******ed behavior.
2. In spite of what some of the gullible people on this site believe, Pac/Marquez did not sell 1.4 million PPVs and Pac/Mosley didn't come anywhere close to 1.3 million PPVs. The numbers for these two fights were never released by the cable networks because Bob Arum would not allow it and released his own numbers. Arum's numbers are always 400-500,000 more than he actual number, which means that Pac/Marquez probably didn't break 1 million and Pac/Mosley sold less than Pac/Clottey. Pac does not outsell Mayweather on PPV and Mayweather knows it because he knows what the numbers are. How, you ask? Because Arum has to report that info to Golden Boy because he has to pay GBP part of the profits from Pac's fights. He is not going to lie to GBP because that would mean he would have to pay them more money of the profits. GBP, in turn, provides Mayweather and his team with this informtion.
3. Cotto will end up making more in this fight as the B side fightger than Pac has ever made in his career as the A-side fighter. In spite of what Bob Arum claims, if it is not on paper in a contract, it is not guaranteed and Pac's guarantee have never exceeded $7 million. I am sure he makes a few million more on PPV sales, but he has never been paid $20 million for a fight, even with the PPV percentage and he has never received 50 percent of the PPV proceeds in fight under Bob Arum, even though he is demanding that from Mayweather.
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People are not questioning Floyd's drawing power, they're questioning why a PPV with Floyd, Mosley (two huge American boxers), PR's best and Mexico's biggest draw didn't do more than 1.5 million. You've essentially got the biggest draw from three big boxing countries and still didn't break huge records.
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Originally posted by big_james10 View PostI read about 15 pages of posts on this story earlier today when I was bored at work. I now have a few observations of my own based on the posts that I read.
1. Those who are criticizing Mayweather because he only sold 1.5 million PPVs in the Cotto fight need to STFU. This fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in history and you haters are complaining and criticizing because he didn't sell 300,000 more. If the fight had sold 1.8 million, you would be complaining because it didn't break 2 million. It is childish and ******ed behavior.
2. In spite of what some of the gullible people on this site believe, Pac/Marquez did not sell 1.4 million PPVs and Pac/Mosley didn't come anywhere close to 1.3 million PPVs. The numbers for these two fights were never released by the cable networks because Bob Arum would not allow it and released his own numbers. Arum's numbers are always 400-500,000 more than he actual number, which means that Pac/Marquez probably didn't break 1 million and Pac/Mosley sold less than Pac/Clottey. Pac does not outsell Mayweather on PPV and Mayweather knows it because he knows what the numbers are. How, you ask? Because Arum has to report that info to Golden Boy because he has to pay GBP part of the profits from Pac's fights. He is not going to lie to GBP because that would mean he would have to pay them more money of the profits. GBP, in turn, provides Mayweather and his team with this informtion.
3. Cotto will end up making more in this fight as the B side fightger than Pac has ever made in his career as the A-side fighter. In spite of what Bob Arum claims, if it is not on paper in a contract, it is not guaranteed and Pac's guarantee have never exceeded $7 million. I am sure he makes a few million more on PPV sales, but he has never been paid $20 million for a fight, even with the PPV percentage and he has never received 50 percent of the PPV proceeds in fight under Bob Arum, even though he is demanding that from Mayweather.
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