If you could bring one boxer back from the past

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  • talip bin osman
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    #41
    Originally posted by boricuajr23
    Hector Camacho for 24/7 purposes. LOL
    Salvador Sanchez
    Wilfredo Gomez
    Naseem Hamed
    JC Chavez

    Sorry...I got more than 1.
    oh yeah!

    carlos ortiz vs JMM @ LW would be the sweetest of fights!

    wilfredo gomez vs the notable SBWs today would be awesome...

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    • LA_2_Vegas
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      #42
      ill just go with Chavez Sr. , the prospects of getting to see another a fight with a Mayweather is enough for me to bring Sr. back. The build-up to this fight would be classic. 2 million PPV easy. A part of me wants to see Floyd Jr vs Chavez Jr for this reason....

      -he'd be at 140 or something....Chavez/Pacquiao, Chavez/Mayweather, Chavez/Cotto, Chavez/JMM, etc all mythical HOF match-ups and huge money...maybe move up in weight and whip some sense into his son as well.

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      • oaklandstephen
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        #43
        whitaker at 135 - 147.

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        • edgarg
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          #44
          Originally posted by taansend
          Stanley Ketchel or Jack Johnson.

          I'd love to see how they'd cope with new boxing methods.
          I don't think Ketchell could, he was a pure slugger with great stamina, no real style. Johnson could, in fact the experts say that Muhammed Ali was a very close pattern to Johnson. Johnson could do everything, including things Ali couldn't do. Still regarded as the best, or one of the very best defensive boxers of all time and was noted for his physical strength.

          Choynski KO'd him in 1903, very early in his career, then whilst they were in prison together, taught him some of the finer points of boxing. The next time he lost was by KO 12 years later, in 1915, when Jess Willard KO'd him in the 26th rd, after Johnson had beaten him all around the ring for 24 rds. Badly out of shape and 37 years old. It was a 45 rder really a fight to a finish. They really wanted to get rid of Johnson.

          When i was a very young kid they were still talking about Johnson and Jack Dempsey being better than Louis, figured that Johnson was better than Dempsey.

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            #45
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps
            Prime Rocky Marciano. And he would dominate everyone. Everyone.
            Don't joke, this is a serious question-deserves a serious answer.

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              #46
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              Aaron Pryor...because his era at 140 ******...for the past 15-25 years it has been one of the most loaded times in the divisio

              n...after his time we have had Hatton, Pacquaio, Zab Judah, Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander, Mayweather, Tszyu, Whitaker, Chavez, Meldrick Taylor, Hector Camacho, Roger ,Mayweather and a slew of fighters that would have showed us how great he really was...no doubt he was a great but he gets a little overrated at times
              I have to agree with you. His last 4 fights were against opponents with records of 24-6, 10-5, 13-13, and 6-3. Basically palookas. Not a good sign. I wonder why??

              Also in his 40 fights he only had 2 opponents with zero losses, and one had only 16-17 fights.

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                #47
                Originally posted by edgarg
                I have to agree with you. His last 4 fights were against opponents with records of 24-6, 10-5, 13-13, and 6-3. Basically palookas. Not a good sign. I wonder why??

                Also in his 40 fights he only had 2 opponents with zero losses, and one had only 16-17 fights.
                Not to mention both of his signature wins are over a fighter who started at 126 and spent most his career 126-130 although great in Arguello, and Cervantez who honestly was great but no one even knows how old he wasat least 35+...After those two names there is a huge fall off in competition.

                people need to open their eyes if they criticize Hopkins(14 champs beat), Mayweather(17 champs beat), and Jones(19 champs) when a guy like Pryor gets so much respect and his resume aint even close to their's. Dude only beat 3 champs in 41 fights


                I know he is great but would have love to see him in the 90's and later better competition

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                • *Boss*
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                  #48
                  This man right here . If he could cut weight to make 175 , he'd be a beast.

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                  • Japanese Boxing
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                    Prime Rocky Marciano. And he would dominate everyone. Everyone.
                    I agree 100%.

                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    Have to disagree...Wladmir would beat him IMO head to head, Vitali to just to much skill and size....this aint a washed up Joe Louis or past prime Ezzard Charles...The Klitschko's are large men with skill...Wlad has the technique and power, Vitali has the awkward style and toghness...A tall order for Marciano...no pun intended
                    Rocky would literally get inside and make them quit. People don't understand this when it comes to talking about Rocky. He made some of the toughest sons of *****es ever, mentally quit. I don't care how you want degrade those fighters. The guys he made quit, NEVER QUIT.

                    Originally posted by edgarg
                    Don't joke, this is a serious question-deserves a serious answer.
                    I'd take a Jack Dempsey too. Honestly, just because Dempsey and Rocky are white in a group dominated by black males in a weight class people want to discredit them. Jack Dempsey would chew through the Klitchkos like he did pinetar.

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ab4life
                      Who do you see as the tougher opponent for both and how you see it ending?
                      The welterweight Shane/Oscar from 2001 mops the floor with both Floyd/Pacman easy work. I mean easy work. Just go watch their fight. Those blows sounded like they could level buildings. The speed was monstrous, the chin, will, heart, good times.

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