Comments Thread For: Arum Compares Mayweather to **** Propaganda Minister

[RuMbLe]

I just don't understand how Pac fans can say Floyd is the major cause of this fight not happening when Manny was the one who walked away from the fight because of a random blood/urine test that he has supposedly agreed to now? Wouldn't that make Pacquiao the one who ducked the fight? I mean seriously, you Pac fans have to be the dumbest people on earth to say Floyd is ducking a man (Pac) who took 2 years to finally agree to give blood randomly. Dude duck the best fighter in the sport to fight a losing punching bag by the name of Joshua Clottey, who had just lost to Cotto who Pac just beat and was/is an in house fighter. That's a Mighty Duck. The logic Pacquiao fans use is idiotic.

It means he made a concession to get the fight done (As opposed to Floyd who has thrown up road block after road block). Pacquiao's never wanted to take unecessary blood tests before the fight after the experience he had in the first Morales fight. Reason it's taken so long for the world to know that he agreed to it is due to Floyd's inexplicable vacation after the Mosley fight, which you conveniently ignore. Floyd came back arguing he needed tuneups, and when it was time to make the fight and Pacquiao made it known he'd take every test Floyd wanted to make the fight, up comes another roadblock with the split. Don't tell me it's Pacquiao's fault again for declining $40M and no PPV when he would easily get $60-70M or more in a 50-50 split?

[GRUSTLER]

It means he made a concession to get the fight done (As opposed to Floyd who has thrown up road block after road block). Pacquiao's never wanted to take unecessary blood tests before the fight after the experience he had in the first Morales fight. Reason it's taken so long for the world to know that he agreed to it is due to Floyd's inexplicable vacation after the Mosley fight, which you conveniently ignore. Floyd came back arguing he needed tuneups, and when it was time to make the fight and Pacquiao made it known he'd take every test Floyd wanted to make the fight, up comes another roadblock with the split. Don't tell me it's Pacquiao's fault again for declining $40M and no PPV when he would easily get $60-70M or more in a 50-50 split?

So you are STILL blaming Floyd for Pacquiao refusing the tests during the first negotiations basically. Floyd would not have had gone on vacation if Pac would had just agreed to the tests in the first place. How can you excuse that but then criticize Floyd for moving on? Manny had more than the blood excuse after he lost to Morales. Socks, Gloves, blood.....

[-Makunouchi-]

For all you floydiots and nuthuggers out there who licks floyds ass as always.

Let me tell you this? Bob arum is the one pushing for the fight to happen, he made duran/srr/hearns/hagler square off in the ring Ali/Frazier Tyson/Holyfield and to many to mention with.

Blockades
Testing - Agreed

Cut off days = Agreed

Split - No PPV = What a joke

Latest - Take the test - So you floyd fans are either dumb or idiots just like him. You can forever kiss his ass, but the truth is he's been ducking fighters that are perceived as threats for him in the past years



Only fanboys believes this guy.

- The main reason is floyd is not scared of Pac but is scared of having a lose on his record which Pac is the only available boxer in the planet he knows that can hand him that.

****, floyd gave a percentage to Cotto a 30% I think. And the heck he does not want to give Pac? you imbeciles who think that 40 million is enough for Pac are simply fan boys.
Given the equation, Projected PPV of 100 million+ if the fight happens.

The offer of 40/40 split with the winner getting the 20% remaining is fair share. Unless your a floyd nutsuckers who believes everything he says.

[IMDAZED]

I'm responding this way because I wouldn't have remembered all your interesting points. The increase from 66 (actually 70) could easily occur because they were almost all men, and because they were in Egypt for at least 200 years or more. Even with early disease death it's not hard to arrive at 600 families. Yes, it's my theory, for over 40 years, ever since I first experienced ancient Hebrew and saw the similiarity of the words, as well as the many (acknowledged) errors in single letter and words completely transforming the meanings. There have been several reliable archaeologists, historians and Ancient Semitic language scholars who have come to the same conclusion as being a strong possibility. It's the only believable explanation.

The Children of Israel didn't really begin to disperse until about 722 B.C.E. when the Kingsom of Israel (later Samaria) was overthrown by Assyrian Sargon. Some were likely taken as captives. Next dispersion was when the Kingdom of Judah was taken by Nebucadnezzar in 586 B.C.E. Under Ezra and Nehemiah after a 50 year captivity, it's recorded that just over 42,000 returned. The majority stayed, being rooted in Babylon.

There were still many Judahites in Israel, because Nebuchadnezzar had only selected the wealthy, educated, artizan and professional classes. In other words all the leaders. This was a common practice with conquerors to take the most influential and set them down in an alien surroundings. It stopped rebellions and other troubles. The Babylonian Talmud, produced by ***s who stayed there, is more revered and recognised than the Jerusalem Talmud. The ***s there were self-ruled by a Gaon, which existed until at least the 7th century C.E. Most of the famous and renowned Sages and Rabbis came from Babylon or area.

With all respect, and I absolutely mean no offence, and not referring to religion as such, however flimsy the Torah may be it seems far more archaeologically factual.. The New Testament Hebrews is regarded by scholars as being very unreliable. Of the 13 letters of Paul, only 5 are regarded as being by the same author, who may or may not have been Paul. Nothing is known of Paul except what he wrote about himself. Ancient puzzle solving is a remarkably interesting subject.

A neat bit of philology is that the ***s came up from Egypt as The Children of "Israel" (Jacob's other name) became the Hebrews after they "crossed over" the Jordan ("eber" Yarden), later divided into the Kingdom's of Israel and Judah, The Judahites under Rome, became the Judeans, and later ***s.
There's also speculation that the word "Hebrew" came from the people the Habiru, or Ibaru. They've been associated with the Hyksos, who invaded and conquered Egypt around the time of the Exodus. It's a particularly mixed up period with large tribal movements all over that area. I could go on....and on, but will stop here.

I don't want to hijack this thread so we should save it for the lounge or something. However, the idea that the "Judahites" became ***s blah blah couldn't be more false. Quite frankly, I'm not sure where the term "***" came from and who decided to replace the term "Hebrew" with it. It's two different things. The letter J wasn't even a letter until the 16th century, when it was first used in France. And using that logic, that would mean Moses wasn't a ***. He was, after all, from the tribe of Levi, not Judah (which wasn't called Judah back then either for the same reason I mention earlier).

[v.cassiusali@ya]

to put it simply, chicken floyd is scared...

[GoogleMe]

Arum that's just so demeaning!

[tredh]

Agree. Compromise have to be met.. Arum's 45/45 and 10% goes to the winner seems logical. If Floyd doesn't bend on this. It is himwho will be in the bad light again..

The bold is totally ****ing illogical in the world of business. Yes they need to compromise but the bold makes no sense at all. Especially with the way we have all seen fights judged. That goes for either side I wouldn't want the real loser of the fight to get extra money they don't deserve cause one of the fighters was robbed on the cards. That is why 10% to winner is illogical and not a realistic offer.

[Thickback]

LMAO at Arum's lies....LMMFAO @ people who believes them....

[edgarg]

I prefer XO myself. Or I should say preferred as it's been many years since I drank hard liquor.

Wine is a totally different matter.

Ah......those were the days At one time I needed to live in the Middle East for a few years, and with many visitors coming through the duty=free shops I amassed many of the best brandies and whiskys, including single malts. Courvoisier, Bisquet, Hennessy Glenmorangie etc. I rarely drank, but my local visitors loved me....Once near the end of my stay, I was away for a few months, and my place was broken in. The way the whole place was destroyed, smashed, crockery, linens, etc. showed much liquor influence. Of over 80 bottles of the best, a sole bottle of J$B survived.

[edgarg]

The bold is totally ****ing illogical in the world of business. Yes they need to compromise but the bold makes no sense at all. Especially with the way we have all seen fights judged. That goes for either side I wouldn't want the real loser of the fight to get extra money they don't deserve cause one of the fighters was robbed on the cards. That is why 10% to winner is illogical and not a realistic offer.

In business as such it might be illogical, but this is also a sport, and this is what is known as a sporting gesture" of which we've seen very few in recent years. It's a form of bonus for the winner. it could also be put as 50-50 with an extra 10% to the winner from the promoters. What difference does it make, you won't get a single cent of it. Why should it bother you so much?