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  • #31


    Why was Whitaker allowed to get away with turning his back and running and ducking bellow the belt so often.

    He like circling to his right, big mistake against Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao's punches are sharp crisp, and accurate, sweetpea would get tagged a lot by Pacquiao.

    Pacquiao chin would have no problem dealing with Whitaker's punch power.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by yesir View Post
      And you stand on that limb alone. .pea would make pac look like he's trying to.solve.a calculus problem
      Only if Pacquiao had a degree in pure mathematics.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
        Pacquiao by KO,

        Whitaker could not live with his speed, work rate or power. Pernell could not run all night and expect to pick up rounds.

        11th round KO from Pacquiao.
        pernell never ran, he stood right in front of you and made you miss, look at the difference between camacho vs chavez and whitaker vs chavez.

        not like you will, but im just saying.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Twako View Post
          sure, but once pac hits him clean once, whitaker will do a mosley. or a cotto. or a delahoya.
          educate yourself on the sport and have some respect for its history kid. to say pacquiao would win is one thing but to put it the way you did is ******.

          whitaker was only stopped once, when he was past his prime and coked up. even then it was from the doctor stopping it due to an injury. whitaker fought punchers like trinidad, chavez, roger mayweather and DLH and was always standing at the end. to assume pacquiao would take him out as soon as he landed flush (if he could) is beyond ******ed.

          he wont even hit him clean though. whitakers defense is way too good and pacquiao doesnt do well with technical fighters. when fighters move laterally he cant get off in combinations at all and rarely lands big shots. he just follows them around and lunges in with wild swings. sweet p would put on a clinic of defense and counterpunching.

          whitaker was better AND hes a stylistic nightmare for pacquiao, hes the single worst oponent to match manny with in the history of boxing imo. complete mismatch.
          Last edited by #1Assassin; 05-08-2012, 04:06 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
            pernell never ran, he stood right in front of you and made you miss, look at the difference between camacho vs chavez and whitaker vs chavez.

            not like you will, but im just saying.
            No, he would literally run, don't get me wrong he had great head and body movement and would make you miss, but then he would literally turn and run and reset again.

            That is not boxing.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              No, he would literally run, don't get me wrong he had great head and body movement and would make you miss, but then he would literally turn and run and reset again.

              That is not boxing.
              this is almost sig worthy ignorance. im done.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                educate yourself on the sport and have some respect for its history kid. to say pacquiao would win is one thing but to put it the way you did is ******.

                whitaker was only stopped once, when he was past his prime and coked up. even then it was from the doctor stopping it due to an injury. whitaker fought punchers like trinidad, chavez, roger mayweather and DLH and was always standing at the end. to assume pacquiao would take him out as soon as he landed flush (if he could) is beyond ******ed.

                he wont even hit him clean though. whitakers defense is way too good and pacquiao doesnt do well with technical fighters. when fighters move laterally he cant get off in combinations at all and rarely lands big shots. he just follows them around and lunges in with wild swings. sweet p would put on a clinic of defense and counterpunching.

                whitaker was better AND hes a stylistic nightmare for pacquiao, hes the single worst oponent to match manny with in the history of boxing imo. complete mismatch.
                lol did i say pac would tag him repeatedly? pac would eventually hit him. and pernell wouldnt even hurt pac. those bigger guys pernell fought, pac had the same power, but pac is faster, more fleetfooted. anyway, fight would be boring w/ lots of running.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Twako View Post
                  lol did i say pac would tag him repeatedly? pac would eventually hit him. and pernell wouldnt even hurt pac. those bigger guys pernell fought, pac had the same power, but pac is faster, more fleetfooted. anyway, fight would be boring w/ lots of running.
                  What makes you think Manny could knockout a prime Whitaker, when Trinidad and Oscar in their primes couldnt kayo a 33+ year old Whitaker? Doesnt make sense...This is my opinion and it based on them as fighters..

                  ..Manny doesnt know how to cut off the ring, Whitaker had great head movement and lateral movement

                  Whitaker had some of the best reflexes ever, rolled with punches, and rarely got hit clean in his prime....Manny doesnt have a good jab and often flails punches and doesnt land as often when his opponent fights at angles, which whitaker was one of the best at

                  Manny couldnt track down a 40 year old Mosely who wasnt throwing back or jabbing, Whitaker will be jabbing making him miss and moving Laterally

                  Manny doesnt have a great defense and Sweet Pea had one of the best right jabs of all-time

                  Whitaker could fight just as good on the inside, outside, or counterpunching mid range...Also Whitaker was a very good bodypuncher and Manny has a very good chin but doesnt take it as well to the body....Manny only fights one way...when you fight one way you have less options, someone adapts and shuts it down you lose(Morales I) or have draws or controversial wins(JMM 1,2,4) or lackluster performances(Mosley, Clottey)....

                  ...Boxing is deeper than Just Speed, Power and WorkRate...if you cant land consistently on your opponent usually the guy with more options wins, Whitaker could do more in the ring and IMO was just a better all around fighter, not taking anything away from Manny who is an ATG and hall of famer

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Twako View Post
                    lol did i say pac would tag him repeatedly? pac would eventually hit him. and pernell wouldnt even hurt pac. those bigger guys pernell fought, pac had the same power, but pac is faster, more fleetfooted. anyway, fight would be boring w/ lots of running.
                    1. pernell wasnt a runner, he was a mover. uneducated fans often cant tell the diffrence

                    2. to hit someone is one thing. to hurt them you have to hit them flush with a punch they dont see and arent moving away from. pacquiao would not do this.

                    3. pac doesnt have the same power as trinidad or DLH for sure, r. mayweather and chavez PERHAPS but im doubtful of that as well.

                    4. pac has fast feet, fleetfooted liek you say. but his footwork is highly flawed, often gets off balance after punches and cant cut the ring off to save his life. he couldnt even catch mosley when he got on his bike, JMM controled him easily with his footwork and only got caught when he got greedy and attacked too much. whitaker would shut pac down with intelligent foot placement, turn him and keep him off balance all night.

                    5. whitaker had enough power to get pacs respect, thats all he needs to box circles around him.

                    how about you watch a fight before 2000? or maybe get off pacs d ick or get some common sense. any one of the three will due. dont bother making another poor attempt at a response, im done with your clueless ass.

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                    • #40
                      dude probably just started watching boxing a few years ago...Pernell Whitaker is a definite top 20 pound for pound fighter and arguably the best lightweight champion ever, was for sure no doubt the best p4p fighter of his era.

                      He just does so many things better than manny...Power and speed aint everything

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