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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostAnd, my theory is that they didn't really care regardless. Because, AA at the time was seen as a killer while Dirrell was seen as green.
The AA-Ward fight was a co-promoted event. Which they had to negotiate venue, ref, judges, and lets be honest AA had lost 2 out of 3 and was looking crap. And, Ward was dominating the tournament. Pretty sure they feared Ward. So unlike with Dirrell. They wanted this for Ward and asked for it while negotiating. Again unlike Dirrell. However, it became an "ISSUE"
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostBecause, he was working with Victor Conte. Which he lied about BTW.
Because, Abraham promoter Sauerland promotions works with WADA agency NADA. Which is the same as Floyd working with WADA agency USADA.
Sauerland had it under contract a year before Floyd even came out of retirement to fight JMM that every fighter who signs for them or a Sauerland promotional event would have to go under NADA(One of WADA agency) testing. Which includes random blood and urine testing.
That's why AA fights with Taylor and Froch which were solely Sauerland promoted events had the test. And, that is why Sauerland asked Ward for a WADA agency -which is USADA, same as the one that Floyd uses- to handle the testing. Because again they have work together for a couple years.
It didn't, but the Dirrell wasn't a Sauerland promotion event. It was a Gary Shaw promotion that took place in Detroit. And, my theory is that they didn't really care regardless. Because, AA at the time was seen as a killer while Dirrell was seen as green.
The AA-Ward fight was a co-promoted event. Which they had to negotiate venue, ref, judges, and lets be honest AA had lost 2 out of 3 and was looking crap. And, Ward was dominating the tournament. Pretty sure they feared Ward. So unlike with Dirrell. They wanted this for Ward and asked for it while negotiating. Again unlike Dirrell. However, it became an "ISSUE"
I'm saying that him using it being to costly as an excuse for not having it in the Froch fight is an excuse that doesn't fly. Because, there was VADA that he knew about.
No you're acting as if it's just one thing that I'm focusing on. It's making an issue out of it, lying, and making excuses. More than one thing. Not really reaching.
So now we're going to blame a 50 page contract and he didn't understand?now who's the one that's reaching?
OK Ward didn't understand. But, my point with this was the Ward team, Goosen Tutor promotions came out and said that they had a contractual agreed upon for the whole Super and the finals with Froch. But, that was a LIE by Ward team. But, again lying from that team is nothing new.
All I've heard from you are theories.
You're saying Ward knew about VADA because he worked with Conte lol You say that as if that's a fact, but yet you use to get on LeadUppercut for not knowing the difference between opinion and facts.
Anyway, all you've done is stated events with your opinion on why those events happened. That's all you've done.
But this is nothing more than your interpretations from articles. This isn't like credible sports writters are putting this in articles; it's just your opinion.
Although I don't agree with it, I give you credit for having an opinioin on the matter. Just don't spew it as facts.
You have the right to your opinion and interpretation; just like I have the right to disagree with it. You've stated your stance and I've told you why I disagreed; you then speculated as I've speculated. But everytime I turn around your spewing this Ward stuff like it's facts.
Everything that we've seen unravel with Pac are actually facts. If you want factual information, see the Team Pac timeline of excuses/contradictions from lat 2009 - present. Comparing your opinions with Ward to facts with Pac are like night and day.
Again, Ward or no other boxer are 100% clean until they at least take the test. But comparing this situation with Ward that you put together to Pac aren't even close.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostFan boy response. There are no saints in boxing. I wish all these muther****ers would man up so we can weed out the cheaters. I bet Cotto would be the last man standing
I'm so disappointed by all these fighters. With all the bad decisions, the ducking and avoiding and not making fights happens while making excuses, to now this? I'm just disappointed in the sport that I love. It's like is getting to the point where I'm might just say screw boxing and just focus on my L.A teams. Just disappointed bro.
And, what's worse is that some fans rather stay naive then actually see the light.
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Originally posted by Light_Speed View PostWait a minute, if you pick and choose which fighter you wanna test then you're not serious about it. Once you start testing an opponent then you have to do it for everybody else. If AA was serious about it, he would have told Showtime that he would test everybody in the super 6. If it wasn't in the tournament contract then I can't blame Ward for not agreeing to it.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostAll I've heard from you are theories.
You're saying Ward knew about VADA because he worked with Conte lol You say that as if that's a fact, but yet you use to get on LeadUppercut for not knowing the difference between opinion and facts.
Anyway, all you've done is stated events with your opinion on why those events happened. That's all you've done.
But this is nothing more than your interpretations from articles. This isn't like credible sports writters are putting this in articles; it's just your opinion.
Although I don't agree with it, I give you credit for having an opinioin on the matter. Just don't spew it as facts.
You have the right to your opinion and interpretation; just like I have the right to disagree with it. You've stated your stance and I've told you why I disagreed; you then speculated as I've speculated. But everytime I turn around your spewing this Ward stuff like it's facts.
Everything that we've seen unravel with Pac are actually facts. If you want factual information, see the Team Pac timeline of excuses/contradictions from lat 2009 - present. Comparing your opinions with Ward to facts with Pac are like night and day.
Again, Ward or no other boxer are 100% clean until they at least take the test. But comparing this situation with Ward that you put together to Pac aren't even close.
Everything else I said was nothing of opinions.
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostHonestly, they need to man up. I'm not even sure if we would have one man standing after it's all said and done.
I'm so disappointed by all these fighters. With all the bad decisions, the ducking and avoiding and not making fights happens while making excuses, to now this? I'm just disappointed in the sport that I love. It's like is getting to the point where I'm might just say screw boxing and just focus on my L.A teams. Just disappointed bro.
And, what's worse is that some fans rather stay naive then actually see the light.
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Originally posted by Light_Speed View PostWait a minute, if you pick and choose which fighter you wanna test then you're not serious about it. Once you start testing an opponent then you have to do it for everybody else. If AA was serious about it, he would have told Showtime that he would test everybody in the super 6. If it wasn't in the tournament contract then I can't blame Ward for not agreeing to it.
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostBecause they just hate Pac...they're in such denial that it was one of their favorite "saint" fighters that got caught and not Pac
I've clearly stated that Peterson was wrong, but my beef is more with the commission for not catching him the first time.
Why are we on page 35 and you're sitting here still making stuff up?
This is why I use to think you were a descent poster, but now think you're garbage.
I've listened and understood where you were coming from. But here we are hours later, even though I've made it crystal clear that the fighter is completely wrong, but my beef is more with the commission, you still choose to troll and make stuff up.
Come on man; WTF is that?
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It's funny seeing fanboys b!tch out on their beliefs when someone of their skin color gets busted.
A black fighter caught with steroids? Petersen's only following tradition. Just ask Shane Mosley, James Toney, and Roy Jones Jr.
Wouldn't be surprised if Fraud regularly takes needles up the butt, among other things.
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