Comments Thread For: NSAC: Peterson Not Licensed, Took Testosterone Pellets

[Roman Moreno]

That's false logic. Peterson being busted via urine doesn't obviate blood testing.

The two go in concert.

If he had been busted via blood testing, would urine testing then be unnecessary?

That wasn't my point at all.

You implied that not agreeing means an admission of guilt.

My reply was that. Even if you are an advocate for better testing. And, even demand better testing. Doesn't mean that you're clean.

Case in point Peterson who advocated the test, demanded the test and was dirty.

[deejd]

I just told you. Again the first time the testing was a set day, post fight and maybe a pre fight at the weigh-in. That's it.

This was random since the fight was signed anytime no notice.

Do you see the difference?



Wait? WTF is this?

So sorry but what?

Yes I posted that before I read your response, relax. We've moved on... at least I'd thought.

[Gino Ros]

Random urine or not; it was still a urine test by the commission that Peterson beat.

Two Seven,

Since it was a SCHEDULED test, Peterson knew when to stop using .

Fopr example, if you know that synth testo stays in your system for 2 weeks, you stop using THREE weeks before the fight.

If you know WHEN your test is, you can ALWAYS beat it. Blood, Unrine, Hair, whatever. The TIMING is everything.

[Roman Moreno]

Random urine or not; it was still a urine test by the commission that Peterson beat.

Random or not?

So it doesn't matter if it's random or not?

So what is the debate here?

If random testing doesn't matter then what are you arguing?

[The Big Dunn]

No it isnt.

All the ***** bumsniffery in the world can't chnage the truth. Manny needed to know when the testing would stop. There is no justification for that.

[BoxingGenius27]

I'm out of this thread.

Russian and Co. will find a needle in the haystack to defend their agenda.

[trend]

No. Vada forgoes T:E ratio testing in favor of CIR testing. Urine will only tell the tale of what an athlete is using based upon the test that is administered. Provided one maintains a T:E ratio within the legal limits of the sanctioning body (some 6:1 on the Olympic stage 4:1), an athlete can use testosterone without raising an eyebrow, once knowing how a singular dose effects his/her body. VADA is aware of this and uses a CIR method, so even if your ratios remain consistent, You will be caught due to the difference in molecular weight and structure of a man's own testosterone and that which comes out of a vial. Which is why the "basic" test didn't produce a + with Lamont, but VADA's test MONTHS later did

[Roman Moreno]

Yes I posted that before I read your response, relax. We've moved on... at least I'd thought.

Moved on?

I guess, you asked the same weird question twice and then went of on an injury. But, this convo is getting no where fast.

[Gino Ros]

That wasn't my point at all.

You implied that not agreeing means an admission of guilt.

My reply was that. Even if you are an advocate for better testing. And, even demand better testing. Doesn't mean that you're clean.

Case in point Peterson who advocated the test, demanded the test and was dirty.

No. I stated that innocent people don't need to fear scrutiny. The converse isn't necessarily true.

All Grass is green. But not everything green is grass.

[samouraļ]

There's inconsistency in the story though. His lawyer apparently claimed Lamont "remembered" something he had taken in 2011, but why would he have to remember it if he's still taking it?