Comments Thread For: NSAC: Peterson Not Licensed, Took Testosterone Pellets

[Danny Gunz]

They did. Sample A and sample B are taken at the same time. They serve as a back up. SO on March 19, Peterson pissed into 2 cups, which then became sample A and sample B

But after that i think he was tested again, probably like a month later and that time tested negative

Ohhh didnt see that it said he was given a follow up test.

[devildg]

I agree, but putting Ward in this argument and comparing what he's done to what Pac's done for the last 2 and a half years is down right wrong.

Just because he didn't take the test, like Mosley didn't take the test when he fought Pac isn't remotely close testing postitive like Peterson or down right refusing testing like Chavez Jr and Pac. Not even close or in the same league.

Am I saying I'm 100% sure he's not on something? No. But the two arent comparable.

they are in the same ship dude, deal with it.

Dont get caught up on who took the test and who didnt.

BTW...Nonito Donaire hasnt taken any test either and works with Vic Conte.

He probably will never take an OSDT ever. You know why? Because he's got the leverage in every single negotiation.

Ward never has to. Pac never has to (unless its with Floyd)

Unless every single boxer has to take the test, who g*ves a **** who took it and who didnt.

[BoxingGenius27]

I mean you "give him the benefit of the doubt", not "innocent"

If that's what you want to call it, fine.

He took the tests and hasn't flip flopped lying about stuff for the past two years.

He hasn't said he's agreed to testing one month, only to say Floyd's not the commission and he doesn't agree to testing a month later.

He hasn't lost credibility in that sense.

But yea, shame on Peterson. I'm just more mad at the commission for not catching the cheater in Peterson "BEFORE" Peterson commenced to whooping Khan's ass. The commmission should've done their job and saved the fighter. THAT'S what I'm upset about and the fact that guys like yourself use to advocate the commission.

[Danny Gunz]

Testosterone pellets are allowed in other sports. It's for people who are low on testoterone. Doctors actually prescribe it. It shoudln't be banned in boxing, but boxers must have a legit doctor's note as to why they use it.

Thats the thing though now the popular thing with athletes is to take testosterone and when they get caught they get a shady doctors note for TRT.

Its getting abused and I really doubt these many athletes have low test levels.

[BoxingGenius27]

they are in the same ship dude, deal with it.

Dont get caught up on who took the test and who didnt.

BTW...Nonito Donaire hasnt taken any test either and works with Vic Conte.

He probably will never take an OSDT ever. You know why? Because he's got the leverage in every single negotiation.

Ward never has to. Pac never has to (unless its with Floyd)

Unless every single boxer has to take the test, who g*ves a **** who took it and who didnt.

As I said before, the alts should be in any second now.

[Roman Moreno]

Another issue is a testing protocol by WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency]. California does not have a WADA testing requirement in place. Two of Abraham's three fights in the Super Six have involved WADA testing. The fights with Carl Froch [Helsinki] and Jermain Taylor [Berlin] had WADA testing protocols in place, while the fight with Andre Dirrell [Detroit] did not. There is no indication on how big of an issue the WADA testing requirement will become.

This why I have my stance against Ward. That I won't be surprised if he is doping. WADA testing protocol was an issue. At the end of the day they didn't have the testing.

The excuse was because the fight was going to be in California. And, then later another excuse was that it cost too much.

regarding the cost to conduct random Olympic-style drug testing in the weeks leading up to a fight. Exactly how much does it cost?

"It costs $50,000 to $100,000 for 7 to 8 weeks to do random testing for both fighters. That's what I recently found out because that's something that I want to implement in my fight with Carl Froch, whether he wants to do it or not," explained Ward,

However, when the Froch fight was happening, VADA was already up and running and the cost was much cheaper. Hence why this excuse doesn't fly either.

Plus what made this strange is that according to Ward team. The fight was under contract of having OST.

All the participants of the Super Six Tournament, including Froch, contractually agreed upon the World Anti-Doping Agency ("WADA") mandated drug testing for each bout.

The World Anti-Doping Code was implemented in 2004 by sports organizations prior to the Olympic Games in Athens, Greece, blending the rules and regulations governing anti-doping across all sports and all countries. More than 600 sports organizations have adopted the Code to date, including this Super Six Tournament Final bout.

But, that was a lie. Only 2 fights had OST AA vs Taylor and Froch that is it. Do people remember when Froch after negotiations for the finals were done asked about testing Ward. Why would he have to do that or Ward have to look "further into it" if it was already contractual agreed upon? Not sure why team Ward lied about having it contractual agreed upon but they did. Also Ward lied about working with Victor Conte. Whether or not means he is guilty is irrelevant. But, is another indication that he lied. Him and his team have lied about this kinds of issues more than once. But, we shouldn't question cuz' he is the "Son of God"? I don't get it.

Also people point out that Ward did WADA testing in the Olympics true. But, lets not forget that was 2004. During that time WADA was suing the 6:1 T/E testing protocol. They didn't change it to 4:1 until 2005 when Ward was already a pro.

Meaning that if Ward had a level of 5.5x above normal T/E ration in the Olympics he would have come out clean. However, now today his test would have come out positive.

These is the reason why I don't give Andre Ward the benefit of the doubt. And, I have him on the same boat as Pac and any other fighter out there.

[Russian Crushin]

Thats the thing though now the popular thing with athletes is to take testosterone and when they get caught they get a shady doctors note for TRT.

Its getting abused and I really doubt these many athletes have low test levels.

Only the extremely muscular ones

Kinda like all the millions of teenagers who needs medical marijuana because they're "ill"

[BoxingGenius27]

Another issue is a testing protocol by WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency]. California does not have a WADA testing requirement in place. Two of Abraham's three fights in the Super Six have involved WADA testing. The fights with Carl Froch [Helsinki] and Jermain Taylor [Berlin] had WADA testing protocols in place, while the fight with Andre Dirrell [Detroit] did not. There is no indication on how big of an issue the WADA testing requirement will become.

This why I have my stance against Ward. That I won't be surprised if he is doping. WADA testing protocol was an issue. At the end of the day they didn't have the testing.

The excuse was because the fight was going to be in California. And, then later another excuse was that it cost too much.

regarding the cost to conduct random Olympic-style drug testing in the weeks leading up to a fight. Exactly how much does it cost?

"It costs $50,000 to $100,000 for 7 to 8 weeks to do random testing for both fighters. That's what I recently found out because that's something that I want to implement in my fight with Carl Froch, whether he wants to do it or not," explained Ward,

However, when the Froch fight was happening, VADA was already up and running and the cost was much cheaper. Hence why this excuse doesn't fly either.

Plus what made this strange is that according to Ward team. The fight was under contract of having OST.

All the participants of the Super Six Tournament, including Froch, contractually agreed upon the World Anti-Doping Agency ("WADA") mandated drug testing for each bout.

The World Anti-Doping Code was implemented in 2004 by sports organizations prior to the Olympic Games in Athens, Greece, blending the rules and regulations governing anti-doping across all sports and all countries. More than 600 sports organizations have adopted the Code to date, including this Super Six Tournament Final bout.

But, that was a lie. Only 2 fights had OST AA vs Taylor and Froch that is it. Do people remember when Froch after negotiations for the finals were done asked about testing Ward. Why would he have to do that or Ward have to look "further into it" if it was already contractual agreed upon? Not sure why team Ward lied about having it contractual agreed upon but they did. Also Ward lied about working with Victor Conte. Whether or not means he is guilty is irrelevant. But, is another indication that he lied. Him and his team have lied about this kinds of issues more than once. But, we shouldn't question cuz' he is the "Son of God"? I don't get it.

Also people point out that Ward did WADA testing in the Olympics true. But, lets not forget that was 2004. During that time WADA was suing the 6:1 T/E testing protocol. They didn't change it to 4:1 until 2005 when Ward was already a pro.

Meaning that if Ward had a level of 5.5x above normal T/E ration in the Olympics he would have come out clean. However, now today his test would have come out positive.

These is the reason why I don't give Andre Ward the benefit of the doubt. And, I have him on the same boat as Pac and any other fighter out there.

Like I told Russian. Your whole stance on thinking Ward is on something is because AA was tested before he fought Ward, but not against Ward.

That's all you're saying. Why post that long article if that's all you had to say?

And how in the HELL does that compare to Pac?

[Roman Moreno]

Listen, I don't give a flying F***

I know you don't, hence why you trying to give Peterson the benefit of the doubt. But, wouldn't do the same for others.

It's no secret. You need to get off your high horse though.

[Russian Crushin]

Like I told Russian. You're whole stance on thinking Ward is on something is because AA was tested before he fought Ward, but not against Ward.

That's all you're saying. Why post that long article if that's all you had to say?

And how in the HELL does that compare to Pac?

Stop comparing him to Pac and take the article as is

Basically he avoided the test, which is the whole point. Yet you still support Ward, while acknowledging he avoided the test, but his excuse "wasnt as bad as pacs'"