This Cotto is way better than 09 Cotto.

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  • therealpugilist
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    #21
    Originally posted by Dr. Ill
    LOL..i give you marquez but thats due to floyd being the bigger man...

    shane almost koed floyd and won atleast 2 rounds....he did'nt win a single round vs pac and got dropped..
    hoya lost by SD vs floyd, pacqauio made him quit in 8rounds..
    hatton lost by 10 round ko..pac knocked his ass out in less than 6 minutes
    cotto arguably beat floyd, pac stopped him...

    say what?...
    you must just started watching boxing when Manny Pacquiao came along facts

    1) Mosley hasnt won a fight in two years by the time Manny fought him, When Mayweather fought him he was coming off arguably his biggest career win, definitely revitalized his career...Mayweather must really be that great win winning a round or two is a feat

    2) DLH was younger and fighting in a weight class that better suit him coming off a big win over Mayorga, whereas when Manny fought him was at 147 where he hadnt fought in almost a decade, having already lost to Mayweather and not looking impressive againsta much smaller Forbes who marked him up pretty good

    3) Hatton was undefeated coming off a huge win over Castillo, Urango, whereas when Manny fought him he had already been kayoed by Mayweather and wasnt looking all that impressive after fighting Mayweather

    4) If you think Cotto argubaly beat Mayweather you are blind and really dont know how to score a fight...Mayweather landed more punches, threw more punches and made Cotto miss more

    sad attempt dude...Mayweather fights guys when they are on a run...Manny has been fighting guys after they take a lose or are vulnerable

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    • Puya
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      #22
      Originally posted by mrcupide2
      The 09 Cotto was weight drained and had a bad trainer.
      He tried to brawl with Pacquaio.
      The new Cotto executed a perfect game plan and came up short.
      He also boxed more and didnt brawl with Mayweather.

      At 154, This Cotto will beat Manny.
      Yup!! this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      and he was still dealing with his Margarito demons that where removes in the second fight with Cheato
      Last edited by Puya; 05-06-2012, 09:10 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Dr. Ill
        LOL..i give you marquez but thats due to floyd being the bigger man...

        shane almost koed floyd and won atleast 2 rounds....he did'nt win a single round vs pac and got dropped..
        hoya lost by SD vs floyd, pacqauio made him quit in 8rounds..
        hatton lost by 10 round ko..pac knocked his ass out in less than 6 minutes
        cotto arguably beat floyd, pac stopped him...

        say what?...
        I counter with Mosley was coming off a win against Margarito(Though Mosley had a layoff, which could be bad or good depending on who you are) when he fought Floyd. After he fought Pac he was coming off being widely decisioned, and had a draw with Mora in a fight some people think he lost. Also this is an extreme push on your part. Pac may have done better on the cards, but the general consensus was that the fight was a stinker. Pac chasing Mosley around in circles. Also another extreme push when you say almost KOed. He wasn't even knocked down while he started doing the stanky leg. You don't go from A to C or straight from 1 to 3.

        DLH was weight drained. Fine, it wasn't Pacquiao's fault I know that. Push because of the sheer magnitude of what transpired afterward.

        I'll give you him flatlining Hatton into retirement, even though he had already lost before.

        I know you are part trolling, part Pacquiao is your guy, but if you honestly think there was an argument to be made for Cotto winning that fight, you should just find a new sport to watch.

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        • Evil Abed
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          #24
          Cotto is smarter now with a better trainer.

          Not sure that would make a difference.

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          • revs1227
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            #25
            not even close

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            • Puya
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              #26
              Originally posted by ThePhantom5
              Cotto is smarter now with a better trainer.

              Not sure that would make a difference.

              REally???? you're a cool dude but come on!!!

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              • Larry the boss
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                #27
                i dont kow bout that man.both floyd and manny did what they had to do against a good solid champion and both came out looking like they were in a fight

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  you must just started watching boxing when Manny Pacquiao came along facts

                  1) Mosley hasnt won a fight in two years by the time Manny fought him, When Mayweather fought him he was coming off arguably his biggest career win, definitely revitalized his career...Mayweather must really be that great win winning a round or two is a feat

                  2) DLH was younger and fighting in a weight class that better suit him coming off a big win over Mayorga, whereas when Manny fought him was at 147 where he hadnt fought in almost a decade, having already lost to Mayweather and not looking impressive againsta much smaller Forbes who marked him up pretty good

                  3) Hatton was undefeated coming off a huge win over Castillo, Urango, whereas when Manny fought him he had already been kayoed by Mayweather and wasnt looking all that impressive after fighting Mayweather

                  4) If you think Cotto argubaly beat Mayweather you are blind and really dont know how to score a fight...Mayweather landed more punches, threw more punches and made Cotto miss more

                  sad attempt dude...Mayweather fights guys when they are on a run...Manny has been fighting guys after they take a lose or are vulnerable
                  Seriously?? Thats 4 excuses you have in 4 fights.. I mean you can sense the bitterness on this post.. lol.. Just admit it that Pac will almost always outperform Floyd because he takes more chances, and his more of an offensive fighter than Floyd.

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                  • SonnyDempsey
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                    #29
                    Physically, once a fighter gets past the age of 28, the younger fighter is always superior to the older version.

                    Cotto is more conscientious of a game plan now than in 2008, which was his prime. He basically didn't have a game plan for the first Margarito fight, whereas he did for the 2nd. The 2008 Cotto was more immature than the present-day Cotto, which helps him a great deal.

                    He still doesn't have the hand speed he used to have, and he doesn't go to the body like he used to. He's also more hesitant since the first Margarito fight, which leads to him not annihilating his opponents when he backs them against the ropes. He used to break arms doing that. Now, he worries about getting countered. The old Cotto used to get dropped all the time and that didn't stop him from committing to his shots.

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                    • Dr. Ill
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      you must just started watching boxing when Manny Pacquiao came along facts1) Mosley hasnt won a fight in two years by the time Manny fought him, When Mayweather fought him he was coming off arguably his biggest career win, definitely revitalized his career...Mayweather must really be that great win winning a round or two is a feat

                      2) DLH was younger and fighting in a weight class that better suit him coming off a big win over Mayorga, whereas when Manny fought him was at 147 where he hadnt fought in almost a decade, having already lost to Mayweather and not looking impressive againsta much smaller Forbes who marked him up pretty good

                      3) Hatton was undefeated coming off a huge win over Castillo, Urango, whereas when Manny fought him he had already been kayoed by Mayweather and wasnt looking all that impressive after fighting Mayweather

                      4) If you think Cotto argubaly beat Mayweather you are blind and really dont know how to score a fight...Mayweather landed more punches, threw more punches and made Cotto miss more

                      sad attempt dude...Mayweather fights guys when they are on a run...Manny has been fighting guys after they take a lose or are vulnerable
                      bold is funny...

                      but i can play your game too..watch

                      shane was inactiove for 18 months prior to the floyd fight..

                      hoya was past prime too when floyd fought him , yet floyd only won by split decision...even his crakchead daddy thought he lost

                      ricky hatton's best weight was at 140..floyd fought him at 47. it took him 10 rounds with the help of joe cortez to put him away.

                      even if you dont agree cotto won, the fact that it was close is a testamnet pac outperformed him again...

                      comprende?

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