Floyd has never fought anyone he knew he could not defeat in his mind...

**BLOODSHED** · 12-03-2005, 08:07 PM

Good theory (no sarcasm). But Im sure Chico's father or mother is black... also, what black fighters has he been dodging?

**Slipx** · 12-03-2005, 08:14 PM

just, ya know, undefeated black prospects who are power punchers..or zab judah..

you'll never see mayweather fight a smaller version of jermain taylor, and what I mean by that is, you'll never see mayweather fight that undefeated killer from brooklyn with 20 fights 20 wins and 15 ko's; he takes what he knows he can accomplish somewhat easily, rather than fight some undefeated killer.

you never even see floyd fight those dangerous power punchers with 14-15 fights, he's always up against 'world class' shot fighters..and if not that, up against a fighter that's style gives floyd the advantage, such as castillo, or corrales.(corrales chin, is what gave mw the advantage more than his style, though..heh heh..)

**flipside** · 12-03-2005, 08:16 PM

mayweather is a greedy mothafucca... he wants a lot of money everytime.. and if and when the fight zab happens floyd can be defeated by zab.. and he knows it thats why i think hes demanding more money..

**mexigaf** · 12-03-2005, 08:18 PM

Thats a decent theory. The real problem I have with it is the whole getting rocked by corely deal. Im tired of people complaining that a fighter got rocked by corley when he has no power. The truth is that corely is a solid fighter the knows how to hit. If he gets a decent shot in its not luck or that a fighter has a weak chin. He is skilled..just not as skilled as the top fighters

**BLOODSHED** · 12-03-2005, 08:19 PM

Thats just it man, you're naming Zab and Zab only by name. There aren't too many good black fighters at those weights who would give Floyd a challenge, to be honest.

The fight with Judah will be made and he will be blown out [judah].

Maybe you should ask, why doesn't mayweather fight a boxer who has nearly as good reflexes, speed and power? Better question don't you think?

YOU ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE, SOMEONE WITH THE EGO OF FLOYD, WILL NEVER THINK ANY ONE CAN BEAT HIM.

Originally posted by Slipx

just, ya know, undefeated black prospects who are power punchers..or zab judah..

you'll never see mayweather fight a smaller version of jermain taylor, and what I mean by that is, you'll never see mayweather fight that undefeated killer from brooklyn with 20 fights 20 wins and 15 ko's; he takes what he knows he can accomplish somewhat easily, rather than fight some undefeated killer.

you never even see floyd fight those dangerous power punchers with 14-15 fights, he's always up against 'world class' shot fighters..and if not that, up against a fighter that's style gives floyd the advantage, such as castillo, or corrales.(corrales chin, is what gave mw the advantage more than his style, though..heh heh..)

**Slipx** · 12-03-2005, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Bloodshed

There aren't too many good black fighters at those weights who would give Floyd a challenge, to be honest.

You can't honestly think that a shot sharbe mitchell or arturo gatti poses more of a threat to mayweather, than say, mosely? or vivian harris? who he won't fight?

Originally posted by Bloodshed

The fight with Judah will be made and he will be blown out [judah].

Just keep in mind how Corely touched his chin well, and then keep in mind how much more power Judah has than corely, and how much quicker his power hand is than Corely's, who has decent power, but isn't known as a puncher. The only way you can be that confident is to be blind.

Originally posted by Bloodshed

Maybe you should ask, why doesn't mayweather fight a boxer who has nearly as good reflexes, speed and power? Better question don't you think?

that's the point of this thread. the only reason I said black is because the best fighters in the world are black. there isn't some armenian guy who can dodge shots in nanoseconds and hit people with hooks coming in like mw...the only other person on his level that's left is judah..that's the name in my head..that should be the name in everyone elses. judah, not hatton. judah.

Originally posted by Bloodshed

YOU ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE, SOMEONE WITH THE EGO OF FLOYD, WILL NEVER THINK ANY ONE CAN BEAT HIM.

Someone with an ego so big shouldn't have to hand pick every single opponent. Clearly if he honestly thought he was such a bad mother****er, like Winky Wright knows himself to be, he wouldn't have to hand pick his opponents. No, he would have OPPONENTS RUNNING FROM HIM LIKE WINKY'S DO!

**LondonRingRules** · 12-03-2005, 08:34 PM

=========Everyone ranks Floyd #1 on p4p lists, and quite honestly it confuses me=================

** It's not surprising that you're easily confused. I'm not even a fan of Floyd, but most everything you stated is complete BS. Floyd don't even talk to his father no more, but I guess you've been in hibernation in Siberia for the last 4 yrs. Did you ever think the reason Floyd don't have more black fighters on his resume is because the top fighters in lower weight divisions are usually Latino?

Geez, if you're gonna hate on Floyd, at least do it honestly and don't make up bogus BS.

**Easy-E** · 12-03-2005, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by Slipx

Everyone ranks Floyd #1 on p4p lists, and quite honestly it confuses me, mainly because he hasn't fought anyone he knew he couldn't beat. Meaning, he has never walked into a fight not knowing whether or not he would win, or lose, because the opponent was hand picked by his father. Yes, that's right.

I think Mayweather is afraid of the other top black fighters. Check out his resume. You don't see many black fighters on there.. and the black fighters he does fight are nowhere near the top fighters. Oh, a shot Mitchell..big deal.. Corely? Don't even get me started, although I respect him, you just know they picked Corely for 1 reason and 1 reason only: Because they knew MW had a 80% chance of beating him, and even then Corely got some good shots in and had MW dazed! What?? The king of the jungle, #1 p4p king was dazed, by someone who isn't even considered a puncher?

The wins over Castillo show that he knows how to avoid and tap a guy who fights best on the inside. Also another two easy hand picked wins, the camp knew Castillo wouldn't be a problem because of the way Mayweather can roll out and punch, man castillo was cake. As much as I respect castillo, he's a 2 dimensional fighter, meaning he only knows how to do 2 things: fight up close with hooks and uppercuts, or take a ****load of punishment, and fight up close with hooks and uppercuts anyway.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying he doesn't belong in the top 5. I'm just saying Winky belongs in front of him, because winky doesn't choose who he fights like a little *****.

Take a look at it this way: Winky's problem is finding people to ****ing fight him. Floyd's problem is how to make larry think he isn't lying when he says he wants to fight the best, yet ups the stakes on all the big names. Just logon to boxrec right now and take a look at Mayweather's resume and tell me it's risky, if you do I'll immediately know you're either a knownothing or a liar! His resume is clearly nothing more than a bunch of handpicked opponents with nice records, who themselves were fed a bunch of bums to get that nice undefeated record. He hasn't faced a world class fight ON HIS LEVEL, like Judah is. he hasn't faced a ferocious puncher AT HIS WEIGHT CLASS, like Judah is. he's a ****ing stunt and you little punks who nuthug him need to wake the **** up and realize your boy is #3, behind #1- winky, and #2 hopkins.

why did you bring the race card into this?
top black fighers...like...who?
floyd just recently moved up to 147, and is in the works to make a fight with judah. floyd has dominated each division he has been in, and keeps moving up in weight as well.
stop hating on floyd

**BLOODSHED** · 12-03-2005, 08:36 PM

You have good points, but Floyd would handily beat Mosley and Harris. We know it, they know it. Mosley still wants to fight tune ups according to the words from his own mouth. Mosley isn't all that fast either. Plus, that would send a terrible message to give Harris a match with Floyd when Harris crumbled before Maussa.

Lastly, the public isn't demanding a match up with Floyd nor Maussa. They aren't even considered top notch by most boxing fans, not even considering the casual boxing fan.

A lot of it is economics, Castillo is latino. That means $$$$. Gatti means $$$$. Harris doesn't.

Originally posted by Slipx

You can't honestly think that a shot sharbe mitchell or arturo gatti poses more of a threat to mayweather, than say, mosely? or vivian harris? who he won't fight?
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Floyd has never fought anyone he knew he could not defeat in his mind...