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  • FeFist
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    Too easy for fighters to butter their bread.

    Looking at the likes of Canelo, Ortiz, Chavez, Rios et al reaffirms my belief that nowadays luxury comes too easily for fighters once they reach of particular level or fall into the hands of a decent promoters.

    You look at someone like Rios what incentive is there for him to improve upon his skills? The Abril fight showed that all he has to do is make it to the end bell. I feel that mindset affects how fighters will deal with adversity in the sense that they won't even bother to kick it up a gear as they know come the final bell the decision is going in their favor.

    You look at Ortiz v Floyd- it is a fight where people expected to lose but it wouldn't matter because he was still getting paid hansomly and people argued that it would give him the much needed expose. The fighter surely knew this which is why I feel he was all smiles when he got knocked to the ground. When I saw Montiel get stretchered against Donaire, there was a fighter who stood up after getting brutally chopped down ( he was stopped soon after but that is besides the point). The effort Ortiz made is pitiful in comparison and that is because he appetite was satisfied going into the ring. When you compare his effort in the Berto fight, it was the effort of a fighter who knew it was all on the line ( how things should be with a young unproven fighter).

    It is why I have no interest in seeing Canelo v Mayweather. If Canelo were a young fighter struggling to make ends meat I would jump at the chance of seeing the fight as he should have the physical attributes to make things difficult for Floyd. Instead we have a fighter fresh into his 20s, millions in his bank account and poor conditioning. He would enter the fight believing ''If I lose it doesn't matter I'm still pocketing millions and I will become a house hold name'' which is why he would get his ass whipped the moment he has to dig deep.
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    When you consider the upsets we have seen in the sport ( Douglass v Tyson) or the come backs fighters have made when facing adversity ( Marquez v Pacquiao), the idea of Mayweather v Canelo, Pacquiao v Rios etc. shouldn't seem absurd based on the precedent set by earlier fights. That is an absurdity is a poor reflection on the mindset of present day fighters.
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    Originally posted by FeFist
    Looking at the likes of Canelo, Ortiz, Chavez, Rios et al reaffirms my belief that nowadays luxury comes too easily for fighters once they reach of particular level or fall into the hands of a decent promoters.

    You look at someone like Rios what incentive is there for him to improve upon his skills? The Abril fight showed that all he has to do is make it to the end bell. I feel that mindset affects how fighters will deal with adversity in the sense that they won't even bother to kick it up a gear as they know come the final bell the decision is going in their favor.

    You look at Ortiz v Floyd- it is a fight where people expected to lose but it wouldn't matter because he was still getting paid hansomly and people argued that it would give him the much needed expose. The fighter surely knew this which is why I feel he was all smiles when he got knocked to the ground. When I saw Montiel get stretchered against Donaire, there was a fighter who stood up after getting brutally chopped down ( he was stopped soon after but that is besides the point). The effort Ortiz made is pitiful in comparison and that is because he appetite was satisfied going into the ring. When you compare his effort in the Berto fight, it was the effort of a fighter who knew it was all on the line ( how things should be with a young unproven fighter).

    It is why I have no interest in seeing Canelo v Mayweather. If Canelo were a young fighter struggling to make ends meat I would jump at the chance of seeing the fight as he should have the physical attributes to make things difficult for Floyd. Instead we have a fighter fresh into his 20s, millions in his bank account and poor conditioning. He would enter the fight believing ''If I lose it doesn't matter I'm still pocketing millions and I will become a house hold name'' which is why he would get his ass whipped the moment he has to dig deep.
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    When you consider the upsets we have seen in the sport ( Douglass v Tyson) or the come backs fighters have made when facing adversity ( Marquez v Pacquiao), the idea of Mayweather v Canelo, Pacquiao v Rios etc. shouldn't seem absurd based on the precedent set by earlier fights. That is an absurdity is a poor reflection on the mindset of present day fighters.
    He doesn't have to make weight either.

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    • FeFist
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      Bump. .

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      • Bushbaby
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        Well prepare yourself brother, Canelo is up next for Floyd while Martinez stays on the outside looking in.

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        • FeFist
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          Canelo v Mayweather should theoretically be a better fight than Mayweather v Martinez however we live in a day an age where fighters in their late 30s have more thirst for victory than young fighters.

          I am really beating a dead horse with this but it really makes me appreciate Hopkins' claim that he was the last of a dying breed. Seems as though promoters are more concerned with putting on a staged performance as opposed to a competitive bout.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #6
            Originally posted by FeFist
            Canelo v Mayweather should theoretically be a better fight than Mayweather v Martinez however we live in a day an age where fighters in their late 30s have more thirst for victory than young fighters.

            I am really beating a dead horse with this but it really makes me appreciate Hopkins' claim that he was the last of a dying breed. Seems as though promoters are more concerned with putting on a staged performance as opposed to a competitive bout.
            How?? Canelo is a pampered baby. Who has a title & hasn't even fought or defended that title against championship caliber opposition.

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            • FeFist
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              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              How?? Canelo is a pampered baby. Who has a title & hasn't even fought or defended that title against championship caliber opposition.
              Which is why I said theoretically. He is a pampered baby but he could be so much if the obsession wasn't creating a marketable fighter. Martinez is realistically the better fight for Mayweather to take as unlike Canelo he is a proven fighter.

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