Originally posted by Mastrangelo
Berto the favorite in Ortiz Rematch, free money?
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I thought Ortiz won the first fight by a mile and it is strange he is the underdog but he is unstable and you can't trust him. I wouldn't bet on Ortiz. He seems more ****y than hungry. Maybe the Mayweather loss messed him up more than ever or maybe he will get it together. With Ortiz who knows.This fight is even to me. -
Idk about money but I got 20m points saying Berto wins this one if anyone thinks Berto is easy money let me know.Comment
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I agree that Ortiz took more of a beating from Maidana,but I don't agree that the Mayweather KO could not have a lasting effect..Mayweather rock Ortiz clean,forget not making the count,Ortiz was out with his eyes open..You put that with the Maidana beating,plus the war with Berto you have no clue where Ortiz is right now..Or what shot could possibly turn his lights out...Comment
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I think Ortiz will push Berto's sh.it in....but not a safe bet considering:
Ortiz's mental factor....dude can pull some bull**** out of nowhere(hell, i could see him fall for a fake touching of gloves...)
Berto is explosive, that is to say, can deliver an extremely hard/fast shot at any time, and Ortiz doesnt have the sturdiest chin...to add to that, he is coming off a KO loss, which sometimes just makes your chin even worse...
Ortiz has better inside game, more power and Berto's defense is ****, so i heavily favor Victor as the better fighter, but without seeing him perform since the Mayweather debacle, Berto is pretty dangerous.Comment
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The guy perceived as having more boxing skills is always the favorite in rematches, same goes for Khan/Peterson II. I'll definitely put some cash on Ortiz, easy money.Comment
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EVERYTIME you find a reason to quit, quitting the next time becomes easier.
Victor Ortiz checked out on the biggest stage he will EVER be on. I would never count on hiim in an even contest.
He rushed Berto last time and forced Berto to fight from behind. I think Berto is going to come out with a fire that, at least, matches that and touches Ortiz with those hard single shots.
If Ortiz still has the fire when getting off the canvas, I'll bet on him his next fight.Comment
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If Berto can beat Ortiz, he'll be a possibility for Floyd in December. I can see either guy winning this fight. The #3 and #4 WW's in the world fighting, should be another great fight with these two. The winner should definitely be in line for a potential opponent with Floyd or Manny, and if they don't get that, they should at the least get an Aimr Khan shot for late in the year.Comment
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Tough call but Berto also put it on Ortiz the first fight. When he dropped him the time before he himself got dropped, Ortiz was hurt bad. Berto is fast enough that he can drop him with that straight power punch. But maybe people are looking at both of their past performances. Berto wins and Ortiz got KO'dComment
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