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  • #91
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    Plenty of worst people in the world than Floyd Mayweather, not saying Floyd's a great guy, just that there is a lot scumbags in the world far worst than Floyd.

    He is to blame 100% for the Pacquiao fight not happening though.

    And he got off lightly for the crimes he committed.
    thats what I mean. you're angry dawg. floyd is 50% at fault, arum is 50% at fault (cant blame pac, cause he is a puppet...)

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    • #92
      Originally posted by ABOSWORTH View Post
      Totally wrong. There are other good fights for him. Martinez for example.
      Right now, Sergio Martinez at 154 is more dangerous for Floyd than Pacquiao at 147. Bigger, stronger boxers that can win rounds from a distance would be a major problem for Floyd. Sergio can not only do that, but he's a southpaw with a chin. He has stamina and can throw sharp combinations and he has a devastating straight left.

      I just look at the success Oscar had against Floyd at 154. Floyd won't be smiling at Martinez when he's blocking hard combinations against the ropes. If Sergio can make 154 as easy as his camps says, he will have more weapons against Floyd than Oscar ever did.

      Even worse, from a financial standpoint, it's more risk less reward, which automatically ends all discussion of that fight happening. I don't think Mayweather-Martinez will generate the same money as even Mayweather-Cotto. Even if Floyd gets an even bigger piece of the pie, the pie for a Martinez fight isn't as big.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by brick wall View Post
        floyd-canelo in fall then

        here's to hoping mosley will derail that plan.
        Even if Mosley ruins that, Floyd still has other options, like the winner of Peterson-Khan II. Or even Berto (if he wins). Ortiz will never get another shot no matter the outcome.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Well unless the fight is a mandatory who else do you think is picking them?
          You know what I meant, when people say Floyd has hand picked his career, there are implying he hasn't fought good fighters. You're just being your normal self now.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
            thats what I mean. you're angry dawg. floyd is 50% at fault, arum is 50% at fault (cant blame pac, cause he is a puppet...)
            That's your opinion, not mine. And it I knew Floyd would play all these tricks back in November 2009.

            It doesn't surprise me.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              Well when Pacquiao fought Mosley, Shane was defo top 3.

              Who else was there?

              Floyd was still vacationing
              Brook not on the world scene.
              Berto, maybe, but when Berto was due to fight Mosley, Shane was favourite for the fight.
              Mike Jones, please
              The rematch with Marquez I would have personally prefered but the fight with Shane defo top 3.
              Now you're showing your bias. Mosley was a non-factor after getting dominated by Floyd. That was the last time Shane was a legit fight. He had TKO'd Margarito when Marg was the man, and was the #1 ranked WW and was Top 10 P4P. Then he got whupped by Floyd and fought a draw with Mora. Pac should NOT have fought him. When Pac went through Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez, it was about as bad as it gets in terms of opposition when you are in Pac's position. Pac could have and should have fought Andre Berto in the Spring 2011, everyone knows that. Instead he fought Mosley who wasn't all that relevant anymore at all.

              You defend Pac fighting Mosley when he did, when it was clearly s**t, but then bash Floyd for fighting as old Mosley, even though Shane had just TKO'd Margarito and was the Top WW/Top 10 P4P, and everyone was calling for Floyd to fight Shane at that point.

              You're bias, very much so.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                That's your opinion, not mine. And it I knew Floyd would play all these tricks back in November 2009.

                It doesn't surprise me.
                Both are at fault, that's why you're not objective because you can't admit that.

                Pac was at fault for straight up refusing testing until fight day for 2 years, and Floyd is at fault for going back on the 50-50 split they had back in 2010. And Pac is dumb for saying he'd take less money, and Floyd is dumb for not offering at the very elast 60-40/55-45.

                Both are at fault.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by adp023 View Post
                  Right now, Sergio Martinez at 154 is more dangerous for Floyd than Pacquiao at 147. Bigger, stronger boxers that can win rounds from a distance would be a major problem for Floyd. Sergio can not only do that, but he's a southpaw with a chin. He has stamina and can throw sharp combinations and he has a devastating straight left.

                  I just look at the success Oscar had against Floyd at 154. Floyd won't be smiling at Martinez when he's blocking hard combinations against the ropes. If Sergio can make 154 as easy as his camps says, he will have more weapons against Floyd than Oscar ever did.

                  Even worse, from a financial standpoint, it's more risk less reward, which automatically ends all discussion of that fight happening. I don't think Mayweather-Martinez will generate the same money as even Mayweather-Cotto. Even if Floyd gets an even bigger piece of the pie, the pie for a Martinez fight isn't as big.
                  I agree with some of what you said (mostly towards the end). From the financial standpoint, it is a lot of risk for very little reward since Martinez has little star power.

                  But I think you are overestimating Martinez as a boxer. Martinez is no better than Pacquaio or even the late Hamed. They are southpaws with unorthodox styles. And each fighter throws punches very wildly, no matter the angle, no matter how bad the angle, no matter how badly they are off-balance. They punch and punch away, wildly. And each one of these fighters lack defense! They are all one in the same!

                  And because Martinez and his southpaw counterparts fight wildly and unorthodox, they will get picked apart by a guy like Mayweather. Marquez would make Martinez look silly too if they fought too at an even weight (147 lets say), the same way he made Pacquaio look silly. Fighters like Mayweather and Marquez are boxing technicians. And boxing technicians are the worst nightmares for these fighters. Martinez is even more reckless than Pacquaio and Hamed. I won't even get into the details, all I will say is (hint: hands down?). So he would get schooled even worse.

                  The only advantage a fighter like Martinez, Pacquiao, or Hamed, has over a boxing technician is power and maybe luck! In the case of Martinez, it'll be power via size. His size is dangerous. I think he's too damn big to be fighting ANY welterweight. But if the size is of little advantage come fight night -- he will be schooled like never seen before.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                    Both are at fault, that's why you're not objective because you can't admit that.

                    Pac was at fault for straight up refusing testing until fight day for 2 years, and Floyd is at fault for going back on the 50-50 split they had back in 2010. And Pac is dumb for saying he'd take less money, and Floyd is dumb for not offering at the very elast 60-40/55-45.

                    Both are at fault.

                    You need to get your facts straight.

                    You posted a lot of false stuff their.

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                    • Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                      Now you're showing your bias. Mosley was a non-factor after getting dominated by Floyd. That was the last time Shane was a legit fight. He had TKO'd Margarito when Marg was the man, and was the #1 ranked WW and was Top 10 P4P. Then he got whupped by Floyd and fought a draw with Mora. Pac should NOT have fought him. When Pac went through Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez, it was about as bad as it gets in terms of opposition when you are in Pac's position. Pac could have and should have fought Andre Berto in the Spring 2011, everyone knows that. Instead he fought Mosley who wasn't all that relevant anymore at all.

                      You defend Pac fighting Mosley when he did, when it was clearly s**t, but then bash Floyd for fighting as old Mosley, even though Shane had just TKO'd Margarito and was the Top WW/Top 10 P4P, and everyone was calling for Floyd to fight Shane at that point.

                      You're bias, very much so.

                      The Mosley Pac and Floyd fought were roughly on the same level.

                      Mosley was out of the ring for about 17 months before he faced Floyd.

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