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  • #91
    Originally posted by rckdees View Post
    you can talk about manny pacqiuoa's power all you want to......but there's nothing freddie roach or anyone else can say that will change the fact that manny pacqiuao got knocked out twice in the 3rd round.....twice.....at 112 pounds.....nothing you can say, nothing you want to say can change that.
    Moron, nothing you can say will change the fact that he's held more titles in more weight classes than anyone else ever and is the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

    Quit being so naive man, it's futile trying to belittle the best fighter in the world with such nonsense.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Alpha & Omega View Post
      Pacquiao can punch but people really imbelish on this topic. Pac has a 64% KO ratio which really isn't that high. JMM has a 64% KO ratio, heck Floyd has a 62% KO ratio. Other than Hatton, what other one punch stoppage has Pac had really? It took Pac 9 rounds to stop David Diaz, who is a walking punching bag and what, Pac's last 5 fights went 12 rounds, including Cotto's where the ref stopped it with like 30-40 seconds left. I am not saying Pac can't punch, he can of course, but I think its more his speed/angles is what does it, not that he is such a powerful person. I think Bradley's chin is the real X factor of the entire matchup to be honest. As I said, if Bradleys chin holds up, Pac may be in for a long night. We are so used to seeing Pac fight people much slower than he is, I think a lot of people are going to be surprised in this fight when he is in the ring with someone who is sharp and quick like he is. I am not saying Bradley is going to win, but I think Pac's camp better take Bradley seriously and stop bragging about Pac's speed, power, etc. Roach's and Ariza's arrogance has not played out well for them lately. They need to focus on competing against Bradleys, speed and grit.
      Has Floyd ever even had a 1 punch KO? I can't think of one top tier opponent. Don't say Hatton because he got up and continued until Cortez tackled him. Don't say Ortiz because he got punched twice while not expecting it.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
        Lets see, Pac had no power against JMM

        Now all of a sudden Bradley is going to feel the power? Hmm... and who said this? Roach? Hmmm
        No power? He dropped him 5 times in 3 fights. The last fight he didn't land very well, doesn't mean he lost power genius. That says how much JMM adapts.

        Did Wlad lose power because he didn't hit haye clean enough to stop him?

        Grow up and go to school.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by rzagza View Post
          I'm not convinced Pac hits harder than Abregu or Kendall Holt. He's as fast as Alexander and hits like Holt. Obviously he's Bradley's toughest opponent by far but I think Bradley will be able to stay in there and see out the distance en route to a loss on the cards. This is what I fully expect will happen.
          I stopped reading there. What exactly aren't you sold on man? That's ridiculous.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Champ Is Here View Post
            Lets see, Pac had no power against JMM

            Now all of a sudden Bradley is going to feel the power? Hmm... and who said this? Roach? Hmmm
            He's doing "plyometrics" to get his strength up.

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            • #96
              i know its hard for some of yall to admit that mr.pacster do hits hard so im just gonna put it like this. pac KOing bradley is more believable than floyd KOing cotto like some floyd fans have been going around saying.

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              • #97
                What's Bradley's biggest strength? It's not his power, it's not his speed, and it's not his skill (although he does have solid skill and is fairly adaptable). If you've watched a full Bradley fight, the guy imposes his will on his opponents and never lets them get comfortable. He is like a pitbull, but I'm not saying there's no method to his madness. He knows what he's doing, and it's in his strategy to unsettle people the way he does. Look at the fight with Alexander: Bradley totally succeeded in making that the ugly-ass fight it needed to be in order for him to win.

                Still, he's not a technician. He's not a Floyd Mayweather or even a Juan Manuel Marquez, and I very much doubt we're going to see anything remotely reminiscent of that when fight night comes. Bradley will do what he always does and he'll try to basically bully Manny and make him lose sight of his own game plan, but can Tim actually do that with Manny in an effective way? It's funny how far Pacquiao's fallen in recent months since the Marquez fight. Bradley isn't Hatton but I don't think he needs to be. In order to win, Bradley needs to make this fight ugly; and I still think that's something that Pacquiao can thrive on.

                As far as Holt goes, I think it's a stretch to say that Holt has equal or especially more KO power than Manny. Holt hasn't fought and knocked out the same level of opponents Manny has, and still doesn't have the KO percentage. Anyone who's ****ing 5'6 and can completely dominate Margarito all night and shatter his face has got plenty of power.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by CONQUERING View Post
                  How does Marquez feeling about Manny's power?
                  He always used to say Pacquiao doesn´t punch hard before signing the latest big contract. Of course it doesn´t mean Pac has no power, he means that Pac isn´t up there with the devastating punchers like Ponce De León or Johny González, not even close. Even guys like Salido and Micky García have heavier hands than Pac, and they aren´t even the heaviest punchers.
                  Last edited by Phantomas; 04-26-2012, 10:35 PM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Phantomas View Post
                    He always used to say Pacquiao doesn´t punch hard before signing the latest big contract. Of course it doesn´t mean Pac has no power, he means that Pac isn´t up there with the devastating punchers like Ponce De León or Johny González, not even close. Even guys like Salido and Micky García have heavier hands than Pac, and they aren´t even the heaviest punchers.
                    Let's say Pac's power out of ten is a solid eight, and the guys you mention are at 9-10. Then let's rate them the same way on how frequently they land power punches.

                    Pacquiao might not have Mike Tyson KO power but he hits guys from weird angles and hits them often. Whether Bradley can take one hard shot from Pacquiao or not doesn't mean much. If he takes a real hard shot he's going to slow down, and in the meantime Pac isn't going to be slowed down at all by anything Bradley's got.

                    Bradley's hope can't be that he can take solid power from fast and furious hands, but rather that he can avoid being hit by them in the first place.

                    By the way, Pacquiao certainly does punch harder than Mayweather does for any of you funny people even thinking about doubting that. Shane Mosley said as much.
                    Last edited by samouraï; 04-26-2012, 10:44 PM.

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                    • You give him an eight, for me it´s just a 6 or 7 because what the heavy punchers do with one punch, Pac needs 3 or more punches to accomplish. Hatton isn´t the rule but the exception.

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