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  • Oh you out son
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    #21
    Originally posted by Toltec77
    Dude you know nothing about boxing, how is Cotto going to box Floyd like that, he don't have a better jab then Oscar, Oscar had one of the best jabs in boxing, I just don't see him using his jab as well as oscar and not getting tagged all night by Floyd, Cotto is a very Good boxer but I don't think he will hurt Floyd at all, just look at what Mosley hit floyd with and he still didn't go down. The only way I see Cotto winning this fight is by putting alot of pressure on floyd but hes going to have to expect to get hit alot, and I don't think Cotto is going to be able to withstand that.
    Oscar for some reason stopped using his jab against Floyd even though it was effective early on, prolly because of the counter rights. Cotto has a more powerful jab than DLH though (see Clottey being dropped by Cotto jab as he was coming in).

    I think Mayweather will win the fight. But I would not be shocked if Cotto gives him hell in the process. Maybe knocking him down after hurting him with a body shot and then following up with a combination to the head.

    This article is excellent and DLH gave some valuable insight. You can't just stay on Floyd the whole time trying to pressure him. At times Cotto must do this, mainly when he get Floyd against the ropes. In the middle of the ring though he needs to box and be patient. Work the jab, and hooks. Use his movement (underrated now, it is improving with Diaz).

    I dunno maybe I am just hoping too much because I just want to see Mayweather in a true war, I wanna see how much heart he has.

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    • jmramirez42
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      #22
      Cotto is no pushover

      We all know how gifted and talented Mayweather is nobody is knocking that but Cotto is just as gifted, has anybody seen a boring fight from Cotto I don't think so. He bring blood sweat and tears to the ring and all I'm expecting is for these 2 guys to give us a heck of a show.

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      • maguirre
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        #23
        Originally posted by Toltec77
        Dude you know nothing about boxing, how is Cotto going to box Floyd like that, he don't have a better jab then Oscar, Oscar had one of the best jabs in boxing, I just don't see him using his jab as well as oscar and not getting tagged all night by Floyd, Cotto is a very Good boxer but I don't think he will hurt Floyd at all, just look at what Mosley hit floyd with and he still didn't go down. The only way I see Cotto winning this fight is by putting alot of pressure on floyd but hes going to have to expect to get hit alot, and I don't think Cotto is going to be able to withstand that.
        You missed a huge difference between Cotto and Mosley. Cotto doesn't run out of gas in the early rounds. Besides, if those were Cotto's hands in Mosley's gloves, Mayweather would not have been saved by the bell.

        And why do people always expect Floyd's opponents to apply pressure when that is the very thing that will never work against a good counterpuncher? To give a recent random example, fans, which included people in Sergio's training camp, expected Macklin to put a lot pressure on Sergio. Team Martinez even employed a brawler for Sergio's sparring partner. Long story short, Macklin surprisingly produced a very competitive fight against SM by staying in one spot and let SM to be the aggressor.

        Cotto won the Marg fight because he moved a lot and knew that trading punches with Marg would be ******. Floyd is not Marg, I know, but that doesn't mean he can't employ the same technique. Once Cotto's left hooks begin to land -- oh, btw, there's no such thing as hit and not get hit with Floyd, he does get hit -- I'll expect to see Floyd trying to get back and become the chaser, instead of the other way around.
        Last edited by maguirre; 04-18-2012, 12:43 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by War Aficionado
          Floyd's going to swell like a mother'
          Yeah. When has that happened? I think Cotto is the one with the swelling and cut problems.

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            #25
            Cotto Accomplishes What Victor Ortiz Was NOT Smart Enough To Do!

            Ortiz had all the size, the strength, the fight, to take out Mayweather; his problem was, he lacked experience and was ******. Cotto is all business. He will not be in the ring wanting to touch gloves, and love on Mayweather. He will be in there to inflict his will on Floyd, hurt and rough up Floyd, in a take no prisoners mentality.... Miguel Cotto will do what Mosley and Ortiz did not.... Cotto WILL knock out Floyd Mayweather.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Oh you out son
              Oscar for some reason stopped using his jab against Floyd even though it was effective early on, prolly because of the counter rights. Cotto has a more powerful jab than DLH though (see Clottey being dropped by Cotto jab as he was coming in).

              I think Mayweather will win the fight. But I would not be shocked if Cotto gives him hell in the process. Maybe knocking him down after hurting him with a body shot and then following up with a combination to the head.

              This article is excellent and DLH gave some valuable insight. You can't just stay on Floyd the whole time trying to pressure him. At times Cotto must do this, mainly when he get Floyd against the ropes. In the middle of the ring though he needs to box and be patient. Work the jab, and hooks. Use his movement (underrated now, it is improving with Diaz).

              I dunno maybe I am just hoping too much because I just want to see Mayweather in a true war, I wanna see how much heart he has.
              Oscar's arms are longer than FM so he had trouble with jab early until he got the distance adjusted. Cotto's arms are 5" shorter than Floyds so expect a lot of counter rights and Cotto will stop using jab around round 3.

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              • sirron000
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                #27
                Originally posted by Cgarcia
                You missed a huge difference between Cotto and Mosley. Cotto doesn't run out of gas in the early rounds. Besides, if those were Cotto's hands in Mosley's gloves, Mayweather would not have been saved by the bell.

                And why do people always expect Floyd's opponents to apply pressure when that is the very thing that will never work against a good counterpuncher? To give a recent random example, fans, which included people in Sergio's training camp, expected Macklin to put a lot pressure on Sergio. Team Martinez even employed a brawler for Sergio's sparring partner. Long story short, Macklin surprisingly produced a very competitive fight against SM by staying in one spot and let SM to be the aggressor.

                Cotto won the Marg fight because he moved a lot and knew that trading punches with Marg would be ******. Floyd is not Marg, I know, but that doesn't mean he can't employ the same technique. Once Cotto's left hooks begin to land -- oh, btw, there's no such thing as hit and not get hit with Floyd, he does get hit -- I'll expect to see Floyd trying to get back and become the chaser, instead of the other way around.
                Yeah he usually runs out of gas around the 6th round.

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                • Oh you out son
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by sirron000
                  Oscar's arms are longer than FM so he had trouble with jab early until he got the distance adjusted. Cotto's arms are 5" shorter than Floyds so expect a lot of counter rights and Cotto will stop using jab around round 3.
                  True, you are prolly right about that. Cotto has to be willing and ready to be ****** up in this fight and keep coming though. I think he will be able to take Floyd's shots pretty well at 154.

                  I'm too lazy to post this then quote the other guy with the chisora spitting pic. But I want to ask you something - obv you are a Floyd fan and want him to win, but I find it weird how you want it to be a one sided beatdown for Floyd. Wouldn't you rather him have to show some grit, maybe come back from an early deficit and show his determination and heart vs. just easily outboxing cotto like he has done to basically everyone?

                  I dunno, I'm a fan of both Floyd and Cotto. So I wanna see a good fight, lots of action, hopefully some knockdowns or knockouts. I will pull for Cotto since he is a big dog but I just want a good fight. Im surprised at how (not just you) a lot of Floyd fans just keep stating that Cotto has no chance, don't you like competition? Isn't that one of the reasons you like boxing in the first place?

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                  • maguirre
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by sirron000
                    Yeah he usually runs out of gas around the 6th round.
                    Thank you. (6th round, if it makes you happy exaggerating things.)

                    First to six round vs Seventh to twelfth round don't make any difference to me. Like when a fighter senses that he's already outpointed in the majority of the rounds, he knew his only recourse to win the fight is to KO his opponent.

                    It's more than likely that Cotto believes that he will lose the fight if it reaches the score cards. So I see no reason why Cotto would have to wait till the seventh round bell rings to KO Floyd. Why not do it early?

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                      #30
                      Thanks man I appreciate that. Hey who you got in that Canelo/Mosley fight? When in the Pac Man and Mayweather fights he just couldn't pull the trigger. But if he can take Canelo's punches I think he has a chance. He used to be a Warrior and if he uses his speed I think he could upset him. I mean Canelo looks big and strong but those guys he fought really aren't on the same level as Mosley. Even in the fight Mosley had against Sergio Mora he looked pretty good Mora's style is so defensive he couldn't get any clean blows in. I think i'm gonna take Canelo in a close 12 round decision just because I think he wants it more at this point.

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