Are pac fans making floyd more relevant then pac because of there hatred?

[deejd]

There were plenty of Floyd haters pre 08, 05-06 is when the Margarito talk started, and Maxboxing was leading that shit.

Go back to the six months before the Hatton fight on here and look at the threads and tell me he got no hate plus that wasn't the starting point~

I have no idea where the fuck you are coming from to be honest

Clearly you didn't read this response earlier...

You're completely missing the point. I've never heard Bayless reference anything about Mayweather from 05-07... coincidence? Also, I remember the boxing world buzzing after Mayweather's performances in '05 (Gatti, Mitchell).

Fischer, Kim, and Montoya were... good for them. It doesn't change the fact that Bayless [and his logic] happen to represent the guy's fan base. As a matter of fact, if look back, it was really only the DLH & Hatton fight (maybe Gatti but it was in his backyard and they all ended up cheering for PBF) where Mayweather was hated. It wasn't until the meteoric rise while Mayweather was away that the hate grew to an insane proportion.

Tell me, how many hate threads would be made if the guy ever signed the contract for random testing and got sparked by Mayweather? These sites would be empty and we'd get to gauge who all the Floyd haters are.

... And yes, I remember the Margs situation... the only difference is that the hate (if you can even call it that, compared to this since it wasn't even heavy in demand outside of the boxing world) was on a smaller scale.

You're acting as if Floyd haters were prominent before 2008. You honestly think the hate was that high outside of the two fights I pointed out earlier?

[deejd]

Also, I was I member at maxboxing during that time... and that wasn't hate... 2009 was filled with Floyd haters, wonder why?

[The Gambler1981]

Clearly you didn't read this response earlier...



... And yes, I remember the Margs situation... the only difference is that the hate (if you can even call it that, compared to this since it wasn't even heavy in demand outside of the boxing world) was on a smaller scale.

You're acting as if Floyd haters were prominent before 2008. You honestly think the hate was that high outside of the two fights I pointed out earlier?

Yes Floyd hate has been abundent since before that.

Let's see people did not dig the "I work for slave wages" comment when he was making 7 figures a fight~

People didn't dig his run at 140 and felt he took the softest touch in Gatti which was true but only part of the story since the other guys weren't exactly jumping to fight him.

Talking smack about Gatti call him a C fighter, then making him look like it.

Fighting Judah coming off a loss wasn't popular and Baldomir wasn't exactly a popular move either even though people had called for both and picked the opponent to do well.

The whole Brian Kenny thing where he went in on Floyd for fighting Judah over Baldomir.

How he fought the Oscar fight after saying all kinds of shit~

Do you want me to go on~

[Rolaz]

Wake up to your senses man,
Look at your thread, you're kinda asking question about PAC FANS!
so they gonna give answer or responds...
see you're putting up PAC FANS so you can draw attention to your Idol!
pac 8 off man...

[deejd]

Yes Floyd hate has been abundent since before that.

Let's see people did not dig the "I work for slave wages" comment when he was making 7 figures a fight~

People didn't dig his run at 140 and felt he took the softest touch in Gatti which was true but only part of the story since the other guys weren't exactly jumping to fight him.

Talking smack about Gatti call him a C fighter, then making him look like it.

Fighting Judah coming off a loss wasn't popular and Baldomir wasn't exactly a popular move either even though people had called for both and picked the opponent to do well.

The whole Brian Kenny thing where he went in on Floyd for fighting Judah over Baldomir.

How he fought the Oscar fight after saying all kinds of shit~

Do you want me to go on~

Right, though he ended up fighting everybody that they wanted him to fight. I understand the hate then... but Mayweather was barely getting time on espn until the meteoric rise... How many times did they discuss his quotes on FT or air them on the bottom line before '08? Let's be serious, gambler, I understand where you're coming from, I know this... within the boxing community there was hate, but Floyd haters are typically stans.

I can guarantee you that there would be far less Floyd hater threads should the fight had taken place two years ago.

[deejd]

Yes Floyd hate has been abundent since before that.

Let's see people did not dig the "I work for slave wages" comment when he was making 7 figures a fight~

People didn't dig his run at 140 and felt he took the softest touch in Gatti which was true but only part of the story since the other guys weren't exactly jumping to fight him.

Talking smack about Gatti call him a C fighter, then making him look like it.

Fighting Judah coming off a loss wasn't popular and Baldomir wasn't exactly a popular move either even though people had called for both and picked the opponent to do well.

The whole Brian Kenny thing where he went in on Floyd for fighting Judah over Baldomir.

How he fought the Oscar fight after saying all kinds of shit~

Do you want me to go on~

Mind you, how long did all of this hate last compared to garbage that has been since 2008?

Like I said before, look at Mayweather's fan base in the UK. How many people are still complaining about GB-PBF? Who's still hating on Mayweather for not fighting Margs? Especially after what transpired...?

[The Gambler1981]

Right, though he ended up fighting everybody that they wanted him to fight. I understand the hate then... but Mayweather was barely getting time on espn until the meteoric rise... How many times did they discuss his quotes on FT or air them on the bottom line before '08? Let's be serious, gambler, I understand where you're coming from, I know this... within the boxing community there was hate, but Floyd haters are typically stans.

I can guarantee you that there would be far less Floyd hater threads should the fight had taken place two years ago.

The Kenny stuff was on Sportscenter and that was before Oscar, after that he always got on ESPN because him and Kenny had heat which is a bit different than most of the fluff ESPN put on even then. He was about the only boxer they talked to or about at all.

Most Floyd haters are obsessed, that is why it doesn't matter if he fights Manny or not they would find a way to hate, hate need not be rational and most have moved way beyond the healthy point.

There would probably be less hate because the Manny fans would not have got ****** into it to such a degree although plenty would have in the fight build-up.

[The Gambler1981]

Mind you, how long did all of this hate last compared to garbage that has been since 2008?

Like I said before, look at Mayweather's fan base in the UK. How many people are still complaining about GB-PBF? Who's still hating on Mayweather for not fighting Margs? Especially after what transpired...?

You still see threads about guys he ducked, generally all Top Rank guys.

Hell recently (couple months ago) I got into a 20 page debate because I consider Baldomir and Margarito roughly equal fighters and didn't care that Floyd didn't fight Margarito~

How many people still complain about the first JLC fight, even though JLC clearly gave away the first half of the fight and was clearly not playing to win a decision~ and then lost the rematch also.

[deejd]

The Kenny stuff was on Sportscenter and that was before Oscar, after that he always got on ESPN because him and Kenny had heat which is a bit different than most of the fluff ESPN put on even then. He was about the only boxer they talked to or about at all.

Most Floyd haters are obsessed, that is why it doesn't matter if he fights Manny or not they would find a way to hate, hate need not be rational and most have moved way beyond the healthy point.

There would probably be less hate because the Manny fans would not have got ****** into it to such a degree although plenty would have in the fight build-up.

Right but Kenny was the host of WNF and FNF, when was FT analyzing everything he did/said before 2008? And I don't ever recall Around the Horn or PTI addressing any Mayweather ppv's before DLH (and I certainly don't recall Wilbon calling Mayweather a coward whenever he was on PTI, which was only for the Mosley fight, hm that was post-'08, right?)

Anyway, I completely agree with your Floyd haters take, it's just that the number of Floyd haters wasn't that big until the stans came along.

[deejd]

You still see threads about guys he ducked, generally all Top Rank guys.

Hell recently (couple months ago) I got into a 20 page debate because I consider Baldomir and Margarito roughly equal fighters and didn't care that Floyd didn't fight Margarito~

How many people still complain about the first JLC fight, even though JLC clearly gave away the first half of the fight and was clearly not playing to win a decision~ and then lost the rematch also.

Who's making these threads though? Stans.

Look, Gambler, I know you know boxing man, you're always dropping knowledge on these forums (no way I'm trying to get into a 20 page debate with you unless it's a cool topic ha), I just disagreed with your stance that Floyd haters are different from stans because over the last four years, like Smith from the matrix, one could have been a Floyd hater, but once the bandwagon got rolling they converted to stanism. I'm sure there's still a slim amount of legitimate Floyd haters left, but... for some strange reason, I'd think that they'd actually like Mayweather after how everything has turned out over the last couple years.