What would be the bigger upset?? Cotto over May or Bradley over Pac

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  • savorduhflavor
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    #11
    Considering I fully expect Bradley to win, Cotto beating Floyd would be a way bigger upset.

    I think that says more about just how good Floyd is than it does anything bad about the other 3 fighters.

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    • Roman Moreno
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      #12
      Floyd-Cotto is a borderline mismatch. Pac-Bradley isn't.

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      • 4Corners
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        #13
        Cotto over Mayweather.

        We know that Bradley can cause problems for Manny potentially, but I don't see any problems that Cotto can cause for Floyd throughout the fight.

        That's not to say that Mayweather-Cotto isn't a good fight, because it is. I'd just be more surprised if Cotto beat Floyd. The closest Floyd's come to losing was the first Castillo fight, which was really close. It's just hard to imagine Floyd losing to Cotto, even though Cotto is one of the top fighters in his era.

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        • BoxingGenius27
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          #14
          Bradley over Pac.

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          • 4Corners
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            #15
            Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
            Bradley over Pac.
            No way.

            Timmy is underrated as hell on here.

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            • BoxingGenius27
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              #16
              What do people mean by "considering how Pac's looked as of late"?

              He lost to the better man in Marquez, like he did 4 and 6 years ago. Nothing new there.

              Is he suppose to stop Mosley? Mosley has never been stopped before. Mosley's been in with arguably better fighters than Pac. Nothing new or wrong there in not stopping Sugar Shane.

              Pac looked good in all his catchweight fights as well as his fight with Clottey.

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              • NearHypnos
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                #17
                Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                Cotto over Mayweather.

                We know that Bradley can cause problems for Manny potentially, but I don't see any problems that Cotto can cause for Floyd throughout the fight.

                That's not to say that Mayweather-Cotto isn't a good fight, because it is. I'd just be more surprised if Cotto beat Floyd. The closest Floyd's come to losing was the first Castillo fight, which was really close. It's just hard to imagine Floyd losing to Cotto, even though Cotto is one of the top fighters in his era.

                This.

                Cotto plays into Floyd's strengths. He's got some tools that could potentially give Floyd some fits here and there, but I don't see how anybody on the planet can win a decision on Floyd. He's just so smart and gets stronger as the fight goes on. When's the last time you saw him NOT figure someone out by mid fight at least?


                Boxinggenius has it right too. Pac has looked good against people he was SUPPOSED to look good against. This last JMM fight might have backfired, but there's no shame in not being able to stop Shane. Shane is probably the best lightweight we've seen in a while and a damn good welter in his day and one of the better chins we've seen at those weight classes too
                Last edited by NearHypnos; 04-11-2012, 07:08 PM.

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                • F l i c k e r
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                  #18
                  Bradley over Pac.

                  Just wait for the betting lines to be finalized. Bradley is a huge underdog.

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                  • BoxingGenius27
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                    No way.

                    Timmy is underrated as hell on here.
                    It's not so much that Bradley is underrated here, cause he's not. At least with me he's not.

                    Stylistically, this is just the wrong fight for him. This is clear as day to me.

                    Bradley likes to mix it up; but the problem is, he doesn't have the power to mix it up with Pac. Tim doesn't hit hard enough.

                    Bradley's not Marquez. Bradley hasn't boxed 36 rounds against Pac. Comparing Pac-Marquez III to Pac-Bradley I is silly.

                    Bradley over Pac would be the bigger upset.

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                    • NearHypnos
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                      Bradley over Pac.

                      Just wait for the betting lines to be finalized. Bradley is a huge underdog.
                      Odds don't tell the whole story.


                      Anybody remember the odds for Oscar - Shane 1?

                      salido - juanma 1?

                      Berto - Ortiz ?

                      Odds are public perception half the time and the more popular fighter tends to be favored a lot.


                      Anybody who knows their boxing knows that Bradley - Pac has a higher possibility of being spoiled than Cotto - Floyd. Nobody who isn't an absolute cotto fanatic or Floyd hater truly believes Cotto beats Floyd barring some unforeseen (and damn near impossible) one punch KO. Some people think Bradley is more skilled than Pac..NOBODY thinks Cotto is more skilled than Floyd. They're both heavily favored, with good reason. But the outcome for Floyd - Cotto seems almost set in stone.

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