What are Freddie Roaches feelings on JCJ refusing drug tests?

[BoxingGenius27]

I haven't heard any interviews from Freddie Roach concerning this.

Anyone know his stance on this?

[DoubleMM]

Dope Coach comments regarding Toney testing postitive were funny. Something along the lines of "we thought they were out of his system already". LOL.

His whole camp is a fraud.

[Hougigo]

I don't know, let me go ask him

[ADP02]

I haven't heard any interviews from Freddie Roach concerning this.

Anyone know his stance on this?

I just read in another thread that Floyd fans in general are OK with PEDs use as long as it's within the Nevada rule. You know, like Floyd using them hand numbing drugs which is not in the rules in Nevada ..... but Floyd went one step further .... Floyd took it on fight night, which is a no no even in Nevada ... but that is OK with Floyd fans.

So I think it's OK that Chavez refuses testing since it's within Nevada rules.

Ooops, sorry. I just remembered that this loop hole only applies to Floyd not for Manny nor with Jr Chavez ..... never mind! lol!

Here is a comment from BoxingGenius27 that for anyone but Floyd they are already guilty "I hope Andy Lee smashes this Julio Testosterone Jr."

[mathed]

I haven't heard any interviews from Freddie Roach concerning this.

Anyone know his stance on this?

The typical Roach response: "Who the f is Martinez to demand these tests? Let the commission do their jobs"

[Phantomas]

Who here thinks that the athletic freak called Martínez is clean?. I mean, he is not even young. He could be Canelo´s father.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Or he can go with Chavez Sr's response:

No one else is doing it.

[boxer2k5]

I just read in another thread that Floyd fans in general are OK with PEDs use as long as it's within the Nevada rule. You know, like Floyd using them hand numbing drugs which is not in the rules in Nevada ..... but Floyd went one step further .... Floyd took it on fight night, which is a no no even in Nevada ... but that is OK with Floyd fans.

So I think it's OK that Chavez refuses testing since it's within Nevada rules.

Ooops, sorry. I just remembered that this loop hole only applies to Floyd not for Manny nor with Jr Chavez ..... never mind! lol!

Here is a comment from BoxingGenius27 that for anyone but Floyd they are already guilty "I hope Andy Lee smashes this Julio Testosterone Jr."

why do people lie to try and make a point? and bring floyd in everything? first off his hand numbing is legal as long as its done 21 days before the fight. he has never done them during a fight. he is subject to all tests he ask for himself. he follows the rules and never came up dirty. if you are going to try and put someone down at least come with the truth. and his hand numbing dont enhance his performance. it allows him to train without any setbacks. but anything you take is pretty much performance enhancing or else why would you take it? vitamins, supplements, ect. when i train i rub my hands down with biofreeze so they wont hurt and slow me down from doing padwork. it takes away any pain while i train. but when fight comes i dont do it. im sure ou never trained at a high level and now how you have to push through pains and keep going. if theres no pain you can just keep going.

[ADP02]

why do people lie to try and make a point? and bring floyd in everything? first off his hand numbing is legal as long as its done 21 days before the fight. he has never done them during a fight. he is subject to all tests he ask for himself. he follows the rules and never came up dirty. if you are going to try and put someone down at least come with the truth. and his hand numbing dont enhance his performance. it allows him to train without any setbacks. but anything you take is pretty much performance enhancing or else why would you take it? vitamins, supplements, ect. when i train i rub my hands down with biofreeze so they wont hurt and slow me down from doing padwork. it takes away any pain while i train. but when fight comes i dont do it. im sure ou never trained at a high level and now how you have to push through pains and keep going. if theres no pain you can just keep going.

In Nevada, you can take them numbing hand drugs (ie. during training) but not on fight night.

but I see you want proof that he did take them drugs.


Larry Merchant: Let's go back to the dressing room (ie. just before stepping into the ring to fight) .... and discuss what you did.

Floyd: My hands ....

Larry Merchant: Did you have to take them numbing drugs to one hand or both.

Floyd: Both

Larry Merchant: Both?

Floyd: Both hands

GO TO THE 10 minute mark:



I take the doctor's words over yours .... it can enhance your performance:
In this one the doctor said if you numb your hands then you will not feel it. If you don't feel you will hit harder.




By the way: You may not know this but guys such as BoxingGenius, TurboTime, LeadUpperCut, Reloaded, ....( ie. Floyd fans or Manny haters) even when the word Manny is not mentioned, they are always implying it (depending on the topic). If I really think that they are genuine about their thread, then I do not mention Floyd. Cool?

[cixthree]

In Nevada, you can take them numbing hand drugs (ie. during training) but not on fight night.

but I see you want proof that he did take them drugs.


Larry Merchant: Let's go back to the dressing room (ie. just before stepping into the ring to fight) .... and discuss what you did.

Floyd: My hands ....

Larry Merchant: Did you have to take them numbing drugs to one hand or both.

Floyd: Both

Larry Merchant: Both?

Floyd: Both hands

GO TO THE 10 minute mark:



I take the doctor's words over yours .... it can enhance your performance:
In this one the doctor said if you numb your hands then you will not feel it. If you don't feel you will hit harder.




By the way: You may not know this but guys such as BoxingGenius, TurboTime, LeadUpperCut, Reloaded, ....( ie. Floyd fans or Manny haters) even when the word Manny is not mentioned, they are always implying it (depending on the topic). If I really think that they are genuine about their thread, then I do not mention Floyd. Cool?

Sorry you failed bad...

Merchant: "Do" you have to take a shot of novacaine, not "did" you..
He took the shot AFTER the fight, most if not all fighters kill the pain after a hard fight.