Just watched some Andy Lee vids...

[Light_Speed]

Lee is nothing special but you don't have to be a special fighter to beat Jr. He could very well win the fight and get screwed by the judges.

[fvanesbeck]

I agree. Plus we know that Roach is the best strategist in boxing.

Yeah, Khan-Peterson was a particular high point for him as a strategist.

Seriously though, it doesn't matter how good a strategist you think he is - you need a good fighter to carry out your strategy, and Chavez is a hypejob

lee is effective with what he does but far from exceptional...he just has a solid fan base

but then again lee is better than any of chavez' opponents to date

I agree. I think Lee needs to improve, but I also think that he is capable of it. Let's not forget that he had a great amateur background(he was in the 2004 olympics) and has only been beaten once as a pro by a questionable stoppage.

Both are the best each other has faced, Lee is too hittable though.

And Chavez Jr isn't?

Lee is nothing special but you don't have to be a special fighter to beat Jr. He could very well win the fight and get screwed by the judges.

Here's what's gonna happen: Chavez Jr will drink drive his way to the arena the night of the fight and pass out after a couple of rounds due to the amount of alcohol in his system. Meanwhile, a few people from the Texas state athletic commission will get Emmanuel Steward and throw him over the ropes and into the ring, and the ref will disqualify Lee for having a cornerman in the ring, so Chavez gets the win and gets to keep making money off his Daddy's name despite his serious lack of boxing ability.

[Neglect]

Been saying this the whole time. I've seen him once, and he was ****.

[Evil Abed]

Phantom i've got 250M on Chavez to beat Lee, are you on?

Your on.

lol. Nobody knows the best Southpaw Jr. 's fought? Still waiting.

[Neglect]

Your on.

lol. Nobody knows the best Southpaw Jr. 's fought? Still waiting.

The fights in Texas, you sure you want to do that bet?

[BoxingGenius27]

I thought Manny Steward really overrated Andy Lee from day one.

But, fact of the matter is, Testosterone Jr has already either been defeated (poor decision) or nearly defeated by equal caliber opponents.

Lee has a damn good chance.

[Evil Abed]

The fights in Texas, you sure you want to do that bet?

A lot of bad decisions in Texas. Only thing I'm worried about. But they can't all be bad.

[Light_Speed]

A lot of bad decisions in Texas. Only thing I'm worried about. But they can't all be bad.

That's what I thought when I picked Molina over Kirkland. "What are the odds that Texas screws another fighter?" well I learned my lesson...

[BoxingGenius27]

That's what I thought when I picked Molina over Kirkland. "What are the odds that Texas screws another fighter?" well I learned my lesson...

So you don't think the ref worked more in Molina's favor throughout the fight?

It looks like the ref was just a dumb ass ref, but I don't think he showed favortism. He screwed Kirkland over (allowing 118 clinches) just as much as he screwed Molina over.

Both fighters were screwed.

Why are you making this out to be like the ref had Kirkland's best interest?

[-Huey-]

I agree. Plus we know that Roach is the best strategist in boxing.

Roach ain't the best strategist, Khan is still crap and literately runs away from his opponents, and Pacquiao still doesn't know how to cut off the ring to save his god damn life. Don't believe me? Ask Linares.