Chavez Jr. vs. Lee poll and discussion thread

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  • Toney Loc
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    #31
    Originally posted by ThePhantom5
    That was a pretty green Lee. Lee was only 15-0 at the time.

    Lee looked much better in the rematch.
    He still looked uncomfortable and Vera is nothing but a low rent clubfighter.

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    • LA_2_Vegas
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      #32
      UGh, i like both fighters and I'm trying to figure out a way for Lee to win......I guess he will have to do a bit of holding in the fight in order to win for sure. He's gotta stop JR from doing work on the inside, because he cannot fight inside, gets too square and is very upright. JR is going to get hit coming in but he will make all the way inside a lot in the fight, Lee's foot speed is not good enough to move out of the way. If he can slow him down inside by holding, maybe he can slow the pace down and keep it measured. Force the ref to put JR back on the outside where most of us think he will be effective. I don't usually advocate holding, but JR is a load to deal with if you cant fight inside. oh yeah , avoid the ropes at all costs.

      JR's relentlessness will be too much I think, Lee likes to fight at a certain pace and gets disorganized when he's pushed to a faster level above that.

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      • The Smash
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        #33
        "Sugar" Cesar Chavez is just too sweet for Andy Lee. He'll use his footwork and beautiful jab, stepping in and out while touching Lee to the body and head, to dance his way to a shutout decision. He'll step in with hard shots occasionally to remind Lee who he's in with.

        There's a reason that 45 have tried and 45 have failed. Lee can't be the first, but he will be the next.

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        • DoktorSleepless
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          #34
          I'm surprised so many people are picking Chavez by KO. I understand he's huge and a bit heavy handed, but he has only had 2 knockouts in the past 10 fights. He couldn't even knockout Zbik despite outweighing by 15 pounds. And while he did have Manfredo hurt, he only got the KO via shoeshine tbh.

          As far as Andy Lee's chin, maybe it's a bit suspect, but you got to remember that the Brian Vera stoppage was premature. He was hurt, but still on his feet and the ref stopped it after Andy Lee landed a good shot.

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          • ny123
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            #35
            Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
            I'm surprised so many people are picking Chavez by KO. I understand he's huge and a bit heavy handed, but he has only had 2 knockouts in the past 10 fights. He couldn't even knockout Zbik despite outweighing by 15 pounds. And while he did have Manfredo hurt, he only got the KO via shoeshine tbh.

            As far as Andy Lee's chin, maybe it's a bit suspect, but you got to remember that the Brian Vera stoppage was premature. He was hurt, but still on his feet and the ref stopped it after Andy Lee landed a good shot.
            Good post.

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            • The Smash
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              #36
              Interesing that 60% of the site thinks Lee will win; interesting because after Chavez outclasses him you're all going to be on here lying your asses off about how you never gave Lee a chance etc, like the gutless hypocrites you are.

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              • Easy-E
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                #37
                Impressive that Chavez is taking some steps up in class.

                I like him via competitive but comfortable UD.

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                • mathed
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                  #38
                  Lee looked very good in the Vera rematch, very fundamentally sound. I can see Chavez getting outboxed early but trying to press in the mid-rounds but Lee keeps the movement up and outpoints Chavez Jr................................IF................................the fight was anywhere but Texas.

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                  • mathed
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Smash
                    Interesing that 60% of the site thinks Lee will win; interesting because after Chavez outclasses him you're all going to be on here lying your asses off about how you never gave Lee a chance etc, like the gutless hypocrites you are.
                    Bro, your boy Chavez has been ducking Martinez like Arum ducks the truth. It'll be a sad day for Chavez' fans when he steps in the ring with Maravilla, Lee is going to be a rude awakening for you guys too when Julio has to rely heavily on a gift from the judges to win. If he can't trap Lee along the ropes, he is going to get outboxed.....that the cold, hard truth.

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                    • kiaba360
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Bro, your boy Chavez has been ducking Martinez like Arum ducks the truth. It'll be a sad day for Chavez' fans when he steps in the ring with Maravilla, Lee is going to be a rude awakening for you guys too when Julio has to rely heavily on a gift from the judges to win. If he can't trap Lee along the ropes, he is going to get outboxed.....that the cold, hard truth.
                      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                      I'm surprised so many people are picking Chavez by KO. I understand he's huge and a bit heavy handed, but he has only had 2 knockouts in the past 10 fights. He couldn't even knockout Zbik despite outweighing by 15 pounds. And while he did have Manfredo hurt, he only got the KO via shoeshine tbh.

                      As far as Andy Lee's chin, maybe it's a bit suspect, but you got to remember that the Brian Vera stoppage was premature. He was hurt, but still on his feet and the ref stopped it after Andy Lee landed a good shot.
                      I would give ya'll more K if I could lol. I'm hoping Lee gives him the business, and takes that title IN TEXAS.

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