Boxing for street defense

[shadeyfizzle]

Ok. Ill bite and further muddy things.

For those that say its as simple as throwing a ko shot to the chin here are a couple of things to consider:

Its takes a considerable amount of practice to accurately find the chin with proper punching form, with enough power to ko soneone your own size.

Even then if you land anywhere besides the chin and/or not as cleanly as intended then you run the incredibly high risk of breaking your hand and/or wrist in multiple places. In which case you will in incapacitatingly agonizing pain and screwed yourself out of any opportunity of defending yourself going forward. Including the use of weapons you would not be able to wield because of your injuries.

[D4thincarnation]

Good if you have freakish power, bad if you punch like Malinaggi.

In a street fight, you want to be able to eliminate the threats quick as possible. If can't afford to work your way in behind the jab, go to the body to soften him up and hope to get a decision.

Your power is also effective by the size of your opposition, boxing someone that your size you should do quite well, boxing someone that outweighs you by 6 stone and is 6 inches taller might be a problem.

If you have multiple targets it could be difficult to defend against all.

If they have weapons, gun's or a blade, boxing skills go the window, unless you have some a-side meths handy.


The best way is to recognize threats early, assets them, avoid them if needed, and violence is always the last option.

[Redd Foxx]

FWIW, the average guy you'll get in a situation with on the street will drop if a boxer hits him in the chin. They are not conditioned boxers who can see the punch coming and brace for it. And, if you train (as-in, with a coach), hitting the jaw of a guy standing squared up in front of you is not going to present a problem.
It's a lame thing to talk about online, but after hanging out at enough seedy places over the last 15 years, I've seen enough to know a little about it and I'm just telling it the way I've seen it go down.

[Rockin']

I was a pro boxer back in the day, the skills learned through years of practice are invaluable in the street. You see a guy reach for his taser, you jump on him and unload, he'll have no time to pull that thing out and will be left sitting on his ass remembering where he miss placed his red crayon back in the 2nd grade. Hand to hand against a regular civilian that person will have little to no chance of ending this fight conscious against a well trained fighter. And Paulie Mailgnaggi would still set a civilian on his ass throwing bare fists..........Rockin'

[D4thincarnation]

I was a pro boxer back in the day, the skills learned through years of practice are invaluable in the street. You see a guy reach for his taser, you jump on him and unload, he'll have no time to pull that thing out and will be left sitting on his ass remembering where he miss placed his red crayon back in the 2nd grade. Hand to hand against a regular civilian that person will have little to no chance of ending this fight conscious against a well trained fighter. And Paulie Mailgnaggi would still set a civilian on his ass throwing bare fists..........Rockin'

Hatton got Koed for taking some guys go on a fruit machine. The guy was a bodybuilder and was about 24 stone. Ricky had been drinking a lot at the time.

Paulie may well do well against the average 10-12 stone guy but a guy weighing in at around 18 stone will walk through anything Paulie throws.

I do know a pro fighter super-fly who had a bit of trouble with a bouncer at a club and knocked down and busted him up though.

[Biolink]

It is viable. I stopped because of work, but during that stretch that I was training you feel invincible. Its comforting knowing that most people can't throw a good punch and will be extremely dependent on their right hand.

[Rockin']

Hatton got Koed for taking some guys go on a fruit machine. The guy was a bodybuilder and was about 24 stone. Ricky had been drinking a lot at the time.

Paulie may well do well against the average 10-12 stone guy but a guy weighing in at around 18 stone will walk through anything Paulie throws.

I do know a pro fighter super-fly who had a bit of trouble with a bouncer at a club and knocked down and busted him up though.

you're talking of HUGE weight disadvantages. Me being 160lbs I'd have rolled a bouncer up and down the street if he didn't truely know how to fight........Rockin'

[D4thincarnation]

you're talking of HUGE weight disadvantages. Me being 160lbs I'd have rolled a bouncer up and down the street if he didn't truely know how to fight........Rockin'

I have no doubt, it more the defensive skills, though seeing a punch coming slipping it coming back over the top of the punch and being ready to avoid then next slow punch again.

Power is not exclusive to boxers, but if you are not schooled in a combat sport you will telegraph your punches and a boxer could make you look silly.

How would you deal with a guy with a bat, gun or a knife, boxing may have to take a back seat to a martial art then.

[shadeyfizzle]

I have no doubt, it more the defensive skills, though seeing a punch coming slipping it coming back over the top of the punch and being ready to avoid then next slow punch again.

Power is not exclusive to boxers, but if you are not schooled in a combat sport you will telegraph your punches and a boxer could make you look silly.

How would you deal with a guy with a bat, gun or a knife, boxing may have to take a back seat to a martial art then.

Boxing is a martial art. And as with all arts its more about the practicioner than the art itself.

All combat is about controlling distance. If a gunman manages to get 15ft or more away from the boxer then advantage gunman. On the flipside though...a gun can only function in a straight line. If a boxer can work the angles away fron the line of fire then advantage boxer.

But like I said earlier...even a professional boxer on the street could break his hand/wrist in multiple places if he lands a punch on say the forehead. Then he would be screwed if he were up against multiple threats or fails to dispatch of his opponent.

[cqcforum]

With all the points raised here it shows boxing skills should be used in conjunction with combatives (that is how I train) in an unarmed conflict and it the other person has a weapon like another post says try to unload on him before he has a chance to use it.