Erik Morales getting SHUTOUT by "Zahir Raheem"

[americanbot]

Going into the Ward fight. Froch had a lost to a guy Ward dominated, then 2 wins, one of them against someone who hadn't done **** in the division. The other one against Johnson.

Zaragoza going into the Morales fight. Hadn't loss in 4 years. And, his wins going into the Morales fight against McCullough and Tatsuyoshi were better wins than AA and Johnson that Froch had going into the Ward.

Americanbot would say that Dirrell beat Froch. He has said it before as well. So going into the Ward fight. By AmericanBot Froch was 2-2. And, his wins weren't better than Zaragoza wins going into the Morales fight.

Zaragoza was the champ, the man of the division...Froch wasn't.

Zaragoza is a 70's fighter. the guy was fighting in the ****ing 70's.....morales is a 90's fighter. morales fought a Zaragoza (a 70's fighter) in 97 who had just come from 2 controversial decisions.........morales was also Zaragozas last fight, meaning he was old by that time.............what do you mean Zaragoza was the man when morales fought him LOLOL Zaragoza had been through wars in the early 80's & had been ko'd. he had loads of mileage.........SOME KIND OF JOKE.

froch was young, fresh & had wins over pascal, johnson, dirrell (controversial) taylor & abraham.........the key word. he was YOUNG AND FRESH. Zaragoza is a 70's fighter who had been beating, knocked out & trashed. he was older when he fought morales which makes it even worse.

when you REALLY sit down and look at it.....it's not such a good win at all.

[SCtrojansbaby]

lol keep ignoring the belts he won by beating Barrera, Pacquiao and Ayala.

[americanbot]

lol keep ignoring the belts he won by beating Barrera, Pacquiao and Ayala.

morales barrera aren't ATG'S in my book.......the only 2 that are ATG'S out of the bunch are JMM & pac...........


JMM & pac are atg's while morales & barrera are high hall of famers...........


truth hurts.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Zaragoza is a 70's fighter. the guy was fighting in the ****ing 70's

OMG you can't make stuff up Zarazoga who was the best or second best guy in the division when Morales beat him.

oh and btw Zarazoga turned pro in 1980 and his first title fight was in 1985..... 70's fighter

[LeG00N]

it's kinda weird seeing people rate JMM above me when i'm probably his most biased fan on this site....

[SCtrojansbaby]

morales barrera aren't ATG'S in my book.......the only 2 that are ATG'S out of the bunch are JMM & pac...........


JMM & pac are atg's while morales & barrera are high hall of famers...........


truth hurts.

lol now Barrera isn't an ATG either? Yeah his wins over Morales twice, Naseem Hamed, Kennedy Mckinney, Johnny Tapia and Paulie Ayala aren't enough in your book? Was it because Hamed was and 80s fighter lol?

[americanbot]

OMG you can't make stuff up Zarazoga who was the best or second best guy in the division when Morales beat him.

oh and btw Zarazoga turned pro in 1980 and his first title fight was in 1985..... 70's fighter

Zarazoga was around in the late 70's & offically started in the early 80's (which is pretty much the late 70's)

YOU LOOK LIKE A ****ING D*MBA** & your butt sounds hurt HEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!

[americanbot]

lol now Barrera isn't an ATG either? Yeah his wins over Morales twice, Naseem Hamed, Kennedy Mckinney, Johnny Tapia and Paulie Ayala aren't enough in your book? Was it because Hamed was and 80s fighter lol?

no, barrera isn't a ATG but Jmm & pac are...............

barrera is a hall of famer.............

[Roman Moreno]

You aint running shat son, I asked you who did morales win his titles against??

So you telling me that Zaragoza and Kelley (Kevin for noobs) were in their primes or on their way out??

Ill help you out. Zaragoza retired I think right after that fight with over 60+ fights!!!! Kevin Kelley was no longer a champion at that time also...

Guty Espadas, Jr. was a good title win to you??? LOL!!! GET DA ****KKK OUTTA HERE!!! This title was actually picked up by Espadas and he lost it after only x1 defense!!! lmao!!!

And last year was a travesty, that title he won from Pablo Cesar Cano was a travesty... Again he should have won this belt....

Thats his bread and butter thats what PEOPLE HOLD ONTO. The first mexican to win world titles in x4 different weight classes.....



Kevin Kelley was done man!!!! He ****kin lost to......................









BOBBY GODDAMN PACQUIAO!!!!!


MAN THIS SHAT IS NOT EVEN UP FOR DEBATE, HES NOT ATG....

So now you not even asking who he won his 4th title for cuz' that's just kills the argument right? Right?

Good man,

now you want to talk about his resume. fine...Let me re-post a post that you chose to ignore back on page 6 post 57. But, here you go.

Why worry so much about title. It has to do more with the fighters he faced. No credit for Cano, even though he is shot to pieces no credit for Cano. But, being shot to pieces and IMO being competitive against tough dudes in their prime like a Garcia and a Maidana it holds to his greatness.

You mentioned Guty Espadas Jr. And, laughing at the title that he won. But again it's not so much about the title but the fighter he fought. Why not mentioned that Espadas had a 13 fight winning streak against tough outs like a Luisito Ezpinosa, Alfred Kotey, Agapito Sanchez going into the Morales bout?

Why not mention while Morales was past prime. Not at his best weight-class beat good contenders at 130 like a Jesus Chavez and a Carlos Hernandez.

He beat the 122 Ring Champ Paulie Ayala who had a 9 fight winning streak against the likes of a Johnny Tapia, Johnny Bredahl, Bones Adams.

Morales started pro as a 16yr old. By 19 he was fighting tough dudes like Sanchez, by 21 he was fighting the champ in Daniel Zaragoza even though some say Zaragoza was past his prime. Zaragoza was going into the fight as a champ with an 11-0-1 record going into the Morales fight. With wins over McCullough and Tatsoyoshi.

Morales held wins over top contenders like a McCullough, In Jin Chi(in an underrated classic), Junior Jones.

He beat 2 ATG's in a Barrera and a Pacaquiao.

He beat Pac while he was past his prime. Already washed up. That's just credit to his greatness.

To say that this man is not an ATG is asinine. Dude is a legend. Faced adversity and came back like no other. Dude is legit.

And, you right it's not even up for debate. He is an ATG.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Zarazoga was around in the late 70's

He was around what in the 70s? An amateur boxing ring?

Is Floyd Mayweather an 80s fighter because he was fighting in the amateurs as a 12 year old?