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  • Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
    What was SRL 4th and 5th belt, how did he get them?

    And, for the bold yes look at his competition yes it does.
    1.) Leonard fought Wilfred Benitez for the WBC Welterweight Championship on November 30, 1979

    WILFRED BENITEZ WASNT NO CHUMP!!!

    2.) Leonard vs Duran November 25, 1980 at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans. In the boot baby!!!!

    DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO HANDS OF STONE IS??

    3.) Promoted as "The Showdown," Leonard fought Thomas Hearns on September 16, 1981, Leonard unified in this matchup....

    This is by default better than anything Morales could have dreamed of!!!

    So at welter you have Wilfred...
    Junior middleweight division he faced Kalule on June 25, 1981 at the Astrodome in Houston, Texas. Kalule, who was 36–0, had been the WBA Light Middleweight Champion for two years.

    Hagler vs Leonard The fight, promoted as "The Super Fight," was scheduled for April 6, 1987 this was middle weight son....
    I dont even have to continue because off this resume right here Leonard is ATG.

    If you wanna speak about Lalonde, then yeah the fight was billed as supermiddleweight.. But Leonard won!!! it was basically a catchweight, but a legit win, he didnt win the light heavyweight title....

    now dealing with Morales, he won x2 vacant titles.... I gave you this info up front. Barerra nor Pac can compare to hearns, duran and hagler, cut it out.

    FUNFACTS:

    Morales was beaten by Pac and Barerra multiple times... only beating them once.

    He won x2 vacant titles, which means he had the other x2 legit. So to you a x2 weight class champion gets ATG STATUS???

    LISTEN HES GOOD, BUT HES NOT AN ATG.... YOU SIMPLY DENIED THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU!!

    THIS IS WHAT I ASKED YOU..

    HEZEKYHWH:
    answer my question of who has morales beaten for his x4 belts and when its all said and done looking at that competition does that get him ATG STATUS...
    YOU REPLIED
    What was SRL 4th and 5th belt, how did he get them?

    And, for the bold yes look at his competition yes it does.
    You dont see how you dodged me, but I think with just the info I presented above it shows you leonard was worthy regardless. Theres this thing in boxing circles that if you have sugar in your name, you better be hell!!!

    NAME THE X4 PEOPLE MORALES BEAT FOR THOSE BELTS CHUMP!!

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    • Originally posted by HEZEKYHWH View Post
      1.) Leonard fought Wilfred Benitez for the WBC Welterweight Championship on November 30, 1979

      WILFRED BENITEZ WASNT NO CHUMP!!!

      2.) Leonard vs Duran November 25, 1980 at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans. In the boot baby!!!!

      DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO HANDS OF STONE IS??

      3.) Promoted as "The Showdown," Leonard fought Thomas Hearns on September 16, 1981, Leonard unified in this matchup....

      This is by default better than anything Morales could have dreamed of!!!

      So at welter you have Wilfred...
      Junior middleweight division he faced Kalule on June 25, 1981 at the Astrodome in Houston, Texas. Kalule, who was 36–0, had been the WBA Light Middleweight Champion for two years.

      Hagler vs Leonard The fight, promoted as "The Super Fight," was scheduled for April 6, 1987 this was middle weight son....
      I dont even have to continue because off this resume right here Leonard is ATG.

      If you wanna speak about Lalonde, then yeah the fight was billed as supermiddleweight.. But Leonard won!!! it was basically a catchweight, but a legit win, he didnt win the light heavyweight title....

      now dealing with Morales, he won x2 vacant titles.... I gave you this info up front. Barerra nor Pac can compare to hearns, duran and hagler, cut it out.

      FUNFACTS:

      Morales was beaten by Pac and Barerra multiple times... only beating them once.

      He won x2 vacant titles, which means he had the other x2 legit. So to you a x2 weight class champion gets ATG STATUS???

      LISTEN HES GOOD, BUT HES NOT AN ATG.... YOU SIMPLY DENIED THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU!!

      THIS IS WHAT I ASKED YOU..



      YOU REPLIED


      You dont see how you dodged me, but I think with just the info I presented above it shows you leonard was worthy regardless. Theres this thing in boxing circles that if you have sugar in your name, you better be hell!!!

      NAME THE X4 PEOPLE MORALES BEAT FOR THOSE BELTS CHUMP!!
      I asked how did SRL win his 4th and 5th title and you start talking about Benitez? Why?

      I will ask again how did SRL win his 4th and 5th title?

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      • 5 idiots with poor reading comprehension skills HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


        i didn't say Zaragoza was a all around **** fighter. I said that he's in no way shape in form a better win for morales then froch is for ward dumba**es............in that sense. yea, he's ****. & completely overrated.

        eat A*ds infested **** if you lose your tampon over it girlys............


        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!

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        • Originally posted by HEZEKYHWH View Post
          NAME THE X4 PEOPLE MORALES BEAT FOR THOSE BELTS CHUMP!!
          Manny Pacquiao(WBC superfeather)
          Daniel Zarazoga(WBC superbantam)
          Paulie Ayala(WBC feather),
          Marco Antonio Barrera(WBO superbantam)

          DUMBASS

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          • Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
            Yes overall and going into the fight.
            ok........now lets have a very strong debate on this.

            what are the wins on Zaragozas resume that makes him greater then froch?

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            • Originally posted by americanbot View Post
              5 idiots with poor reading comprehension skills HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


              i didn't say Zaragoza was a all around **** fighter. I said that he's in no way shape in form a better win for morales then froch is for ward dumba**es............in that sense. yea, he's ****. & completely overrated.

              eat A*ds infested **** if you lose your tampon over it girlys............


              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!!!
              Going into the Ward fight. Froch had a lost to a guy Ward dominated, then 2 wins, one of them against someone who hadn't done **** in the division. The other one against Johnson.

              Zaragoza going into the Morales fight. Hadn't loss in 4 years. And, his wins going into the Morales fight against McCullough and Tatsuyoshi were better wins than AA and Johnson that Froch had going into the Ward.

              Americanbot would say that Dirrell beat Froch. He has said it before as well. So going into the Ward fight. By AmericanBot Froch was 2-2. And, his wins weren't better than Zaragoza wins going into the Morales fight.

              Zaragoza was the champ, the man of the division...Froch wasn't.

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              • Originally posted by americanbot View Post
                I said that he's in no way shape in form a better win for morales then froch is for ward

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                • Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                  I just don't see how Oscar won the first Mosley fight. I just can't see it. If that's the case then Whitaker, Quartey and Tito all beat Oscar. Because, those 3 are more debatable than Oscar-Mosley first fight. That was as you clear as you could get.

                  It was close and competitive ala Morales-Pacquiao first fight. But, just like Morales-Pacquiao there was one clear winner and not even debatable.

                  BTW, did you know he cherry picked Mosley. The thing with Oscar is that he fooled a lot of people. A lot of people who were not watching boxing back then...The newer fans look at boxrec and see names and they get impressed without really knowing what was going on at the time.

                  Mosley was a big underdog going in. Because, he wasn't really proven at WW and was considered small who skipped at the 140 division. At that time you know how people looked at Berto before Ortiz. That was like Mosley going into the first Oscar fight. When Mosley beat Oscar it was a big upset. And, then Oscar didn't want a rematch until Mosley lost twice to Forrest and looked like crap against Marquez. So Oscar tried to cherry pick him again. It was actually quite funny during those times.

                  Yeah, I was just a lil ass kid when Mosley/Oscar fought the first time, and was just a "mainstream/casual" type fan. . Just watched boxing matches with my dad without actually really "knowing" the sport. . . I've been about as hardcore as hardcore can get, though, since about 2005. . And I've thoroughly done my homework, and watched all the past great fights. . . I can break down fighters, and fights inside and out now.

                  But Mosley was an undefeated lightweight coming up, wasn't he? Is Ortiz/Berto the best analogy since Ortiz had already lost to Maidana, and drew with Peterson? WHereas Mosley was viewed as an absolute BEAST!!

                  But I think Oscar/Pea is a clear victory for Oscar. Same with Quartey. . . The more I watch Tito, I can actually see that fight being a draw; definitely dont think Tito won, though. .. But that's why this is the greatest sport in the world - it's so subjective when two great fighters are each competitive. . .


                  Anyway, back to Morales. . . Like I said, I can place Morales at 7-9 of his generation. . . Maybe somewhere around the 85th best boxer of all time.

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                  • Originally posted by americanbot View Post
                    ok........now lets have a very strong debate on this.

                    what are the wins on Zaragozas resume that makes him greater then froch?
                    Yes beating Banke(2x), McCullough, Sanchez, Tatsuyoshi(2x), and even a faded Zarate>>>Beating, AA, a faded Johnson, a faded Taylor, Dirrell, and Pascal.

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                    • Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                      I asked how did SRL win his 4th and 5th title and you start talking about Benitez? Why?

                      I will ask again how did SRL win his 4th and 5th title?
                      You aint running shat son, I asked you who did morales win his titles against??

                      So you telling me that Zaragoza and Kelley (Kevin for noobs) were in their primes or on their way out??

                      Ill help you out. Zaragoza retired I think right after that fight with over 60+ fights!!!! Kevin Kelley was no longer a champion at that time also...

                      Guty Espadas, Jr. was a good title win to you??? LOL!!! GET DA ****KKK OUTTA HERE!!! This title was actually picked up by Espadas and he lost it after only x1 defense!!! lmao!!!

                      And last year was a travesty, that title he won from Pablo Cesar Cano was a travesty... Again he should have won this belt....

                      Thats his bread and butter thats what PEOPLE HOLD ONTO. The first mexican to win world titles in x4 different weight classes.....



                      Kevin Kelley was done man!!!! He ****kin lost to......................









                      BOBBY GODDAMN PACQUIAO!!!!!


                      MAN THIS SHAT IS NOT EVEN UP FOR DEBATE, HES NOT ATG....

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