Canelo Alvarez vs. the 154 lb division????

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  • Alec900
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    #21
    Originally posted by 4CornersKid
    Right now, if Canelo really actually steps up, how do you think he'd do against the 154 lb division???

    Cotto
    Vanes
    Lara
    Molina
    Kirkland
    Williams
    Angulo
    Rodriguez
    Bundrage
    Trout
    Rosado
    he beats all not named Cotto or Lara

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    • SOPH~ REP.
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      #22
      Hard to Say until I see it for myself his advisors are wasting alot of time fighting bums

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #23
        All with the exception of probably Cotto, I don't see how Lara beats him.

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        • PureBoxingCEO
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          #24
          he can beat them all, but Lara might do some damage to him

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          • Bushbaby
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            #25
            Originally posted by 2120
            i have not seen much of trout but of the rest i would say he would beat Rosado

            based on what canelo has shown against the limited and faded comp he has faced i would not favor him to beat any of the guys listed

            so as of right now he goes 0-9 against

            Cotto
            Vanes
            Lara
            Molina
            Kirkland
            Williams
            Angulo
            Rodriguez
            Bundrage

            0-10 if you also include Dzinziruk
            I'm with this guy. Canelo hasn't faced better than the worst named.

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            • KnockUTheFukOut
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              #26
              he beats them all on the cards regardless of how good or bad he looks while fighting them because of course Golden Boy and even HBO is going to protect the hell out of him because he is a Huge Draw in Mexico and both feel they can make a ton of money off of him

              but I think Molina and Lara would BEAT Alvarez right now, I like Trout as well but I have to see him in a BIG FIGHT first before I pick him over any of the top fighters at 154 but I do think he has all the skills to beat most of them...INCLUDING ALVAREZ!

              also Demetrius Andrade is another guy with a lot of talent but haven't been tested yet, but he does have the TALENT to one day be at the Top of that 154 Division if he stays in it, his talent level and potential is even higher then Alvarez

              then again the more I think about it...Alvarez really haven't been tested all that much either so...AND Fighting OLD WASHED UP FIGHTERS IS NOT BEING TESTED!

              Molina last 3 fights was against Lara, Cintron and Kirkland and I think he won All 3 Fights, so I would pick him over Alvarez right now FOR SURE! Even Lara fight Molina and Williams is much tougher then anybody Alvarez has faced so far in his career
              Last edited by KnockUTheFukOut; 03-31-2012, 01:57 PM.

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              • kiaba360
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                #27
                Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                Right now, if Canelo really actually steps up, how do you think he'd do against the 154 lb division???

                Cotto
                Vanes
                Lara
                Molina
                Kirkland
                Williams
                Angulo
                Rodriguez
                Bundrage
                Trout
                Rosado
                Ok, let's see what we got here. Let me start with who I wouldn't favor him against: Cotto, Lara, P. Williams. I would favor him against K9. I haven't seen enough of Rosado yet, so I'll leave him on the back-burner. Every other fight is 50-50, and for different reasons that I don't feel like going into, cuz then I'll have a wall of text like Brother Jay tends to do lol. I do like Canelo, and I think he's coming into his own, but he hasn't stopped anyone impressively and he hasn't been in there with somebody in prime physical condition. He's being brought up like a prospect who just so happens to have a belt attached to him. All I know is, if Shane has success against Canelo, then we're gonna know what time it is. If Canelo can't dominate a damn-near-shot Mosley on May 5th, I will bump this thread, cuz some of ya'll are putting him up on a pedestal as if he can clearly beat most, if not all of these guys. I'm not convinced just yet. Canelo has potential, and until he does something worthy of a champion, then that's what he'll continue to be.

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                • Garo
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                  #28
                  He loses to Cotto, Lara, and Vanes.

                  Molina gets robbed, and everyone else he beats.

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #29
                    Why do people think Cotto beats him? Cotto is done, Canelo would be too fresh and strong for him.

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                    • kiaba360
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Why do people think Cotto beats him? Cotto is done, Canelo would be too fresh and strong for him.
                      How I WISH we could've had a Cotto/Canelo show-down. But Floyd had to step into the equation and **** up the natural order.

                      Cotto's attributes aren't that far gone, and he has more experience than Canelo. He's still untested, still growing as a fighter, still figuring out his in-ring identity, and that's something that can be exploited. Cotto has the bigger skill-set, and Canelo isn't great defensively. Canelo has the physical attributes, but if he can't over-power/over-whelm Cotto, then he'll most likely get out-boxed. I would favor Cotto 60/40.

                      If anything, Floyd will show us how "done" Cotto really is. Hopefully he doesn't beat him up too badly lol.

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