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  • KnockUTheFukOut
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    #91
    Originally posted by Cgarcia
    Floyd fanboys are all the same. They don't see things normal people do. You don't blame anyone but fighters themselves when the fight is not getting made. In negotiations you don't just say this is what I want and expect the other side to accept it hook line and sinker. That's immaturity and childish. You don't defend something like that just because you're a fan.

    You don't even need anybody to support what I'm saying. All you need is your brain.

    All you fanboys have been basically saying is Pac is an easy fight for Floyd. Why then do you keep defending roadblocks? That's ******.
    That You For VALIDATING MY STATEMENT! Sensitive Pacquiao fans who can't handle the truth so once again here is another loser dragging Mayweather into the situation when this topic has absolutely nothing to do with Mayweather
    Last edited by KnockUTheFukOut; 03-27-2012, 01:16 PM.

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    • SWEETSCIENCE100
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      #92
      Originally posted by Brother Jay
      Manny is not on the decline.

      Manny Pacquiao is the same boxer who fought Barrera and Morales.

      He's no different. Its just that he's run out of losers to target, and when that happened, he had to step up against men who can box and move instead of just losers who plod forward and retreat backwards.

      Mosley ran but showed that Pacquiao isn't effective at all unless you stand and trade.

      JMM simply moved to the sides after punching and left Manny looking confused and desperate.

      Manny has NOT improved. If he has in one aspect, its in stamina. His stamina to dart in and out for 12 rounds is impressive.


      As a technical boxer, no he hasn't even made any adjustments.

      His approach and methods are ALL the same with some added stamina.

      Those things are the measure of improvement.
      100% AGREED! Same fighter as before, all fighters over 30 are declining, so dont use that excuse. Pac is one of the dumbest fighters I have ever seen. Roach is also one of the dumbest trainers I have ever seen. He should be a conditioning coach, thats what hes good at, but when it comes to strategy he sucks. Just listen at his responses when his fighters 100 punch combos doesnt work and his fighters are losing. He says throw more punches, lol what a dumb idot! lol

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      • maguirre
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        #93
        Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
        That Your For VALIDATING MY STATEMENT! Sensitive Pacquiao fans who can't handle the truth so once again here is another loser dragging Mayweather into the situation when this topic has absolutely nothing to do with Mayweather
        Like I said, I'm okay with Floyd fans saying Pac is amateurish, one-dimensional, fought nothing but bums, etc. etc. It's the childish inconsistencies that make you look like clowns. You've been describing an amateur who is basically a weak fighter. But then you clowns are the first to defend roadblocks, stringent tests that was never demanded of a "weak" boxer in the history of the sport.

        You can't have it both ways, homey. Only kids want everything in many ways.

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #94
          cherry picking handicap fights can make anyone look like Lionel Messi.

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          • tredh
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            #95
            Originally posted by Cgarcia
            Floyd fanboys are all the same. They don't see things normal people do. You don't blame anyone but fighters themselves when the fight is not getting made. In negotiations you don't just say this is what I want and expect the other side to accept it hook line and sinker. That's immaturity and childish. You don't defend something like that just because you're a fan.

            You don't even need anybody to support what I'm saying. All you need is your brain.

            All you fanboys have been basically saying is Pac is an easy fight for Floyd. Why then do you keep defending roadblocks? That's ******.
            I can't agree at all with the bold. In this case as a PBF fan I can mostly agree with that because asking for all of the ppv money is just flat out wrong. But it has been well documented that managers and promoters majority of the time mess up the fights that fans want to see.

            I will never agree with or support a fighter getting the ***** end of the stick just for a fight to get made to please the fans and they won't get to call him a b!tch, coward, ducker, etc.

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            • Bermuda
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              #96
              at the lower weights pacquiao was more wild and aggressive relying alot on his straight left punch...as pac moved up in weight his style changed a bit from being strictly wild and aggressive to more patient and learning to counter and pick his shots..he also started using his right hand more than he used to. just watch his fight with someone like ledwaba or barrera 1 and compare it to his fights from 130+...you can argue that pac hasn't improved since 2008..but to say pac hasn't improved or at least changed his style at all and is the same fighter that beat guys like ledwaba and barrera 1 is ridiculous.
              Last edited by Bermuda; 03-27-2012, 01:39 PM.

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              • maguirre
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                #97
                Originally posted by tredh
                I can't agree at all with the bold. In this case as a PBF fan I can mostly agree with that because asking for all of the ppv money is just flat out wrong. But it has been well documented that managers and promoters majority of the time mess up the fights that fans want to see.
                I agree with you especially when star boxers are not involved. But not in this case. Floyd Mayweather Jr has all the power in the world to make this fight happen if really wanted it. If he comes in a position where he really wants this fight for reasons such as it's for the good of the sport, challenge himself and prove he's the best, as well as for the fans, there's no one in the world that can stop this fight from happening. Unfortunately, not one of those I mentioned is part of his way of looking at it.

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                • KnockUTheFukOut
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Cgarcia
                  Like I said, I'm okay with Floyd fans saying Pac is amateurish, one-dimensional, fought nothing but bums, etc. etc. It's the childish inconsistencies that make you look like clowns. You've been describing an amateur who is basically a weak fighter. But then you clowns are the first to defend roadblocks, stringent tests that was never demanded of a "weak" boxer in the history of the sport.

                  You can't have it both ways, homey. Only kids want everything in many ways.
                  So saying that he mostly fought slower flat footed fighters since the 2nd JMM Fight...Is that not true? Because I got news for you...IT IS TRUE!

                  David Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley

                  Sorry, I know it hurts but it is the TRUTH, Arum has been picking his opponents...WISELY! Giving him opponents they knew he could look good against! And no he is not Technically Sound so yes to some fans who been watching boxing long before the "RISE OF PACQUIAO" YES some of his movements and Punches may look "Amateurish", especially if your a fan that was blessed to see some of the greats in their PRIME like Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns even Roy Jones and James Toney and Chavez and fighters like that...Compared to them...HELL YES most fighters today look "Amateurish"

                  BUT I am wasting my time replying to you, I am sure your just going to reply again with something about "Mayweather"...AGAIN because that is what most Crazed Pacquiao Do, they go completely of topic when confronted with THE TRUTH "BUT MAYWEATHER DID..."

                  and I don't give a damn what Mayweather Fans say about Pacquiao...I am a BOXING FAN FIRST, I am a fan of the sport FIRST, so I can predict and talk about a fight or fighter without being Biased! Compared to some LOSER who only like Pacquiao because he is Filipino like they are or some LOSER who only likes Mayweather because he is Black Like They Are

                  Both IGNORANT FAN BASES are doing more harm to the sport then helping it, Boxing will be better when both sides DISAPPEAR!

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                  • HEZEKYHWH
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Cgarcia
                    Floyd fanboys are all the same. They don't see things normal people do. You don't blame anyone but fighters themselves when the fight is not getting made. In negotiations you don't just say this is what I want and expect the other side to accept it hook line and sinker. That's immaturity and childish. You don't defend something like that just because you're a fan.

                    You don't even need anybody to support what I'm saying. All you need is your brain.

                    All you fanboys have been basically saying is Pac is an easy fight for Floyd. Why then do you keep defending roadblocks? That's ******.
                    In negotiations I remember a 14 day compromise the first time... The judge stated TOP RANK AND CO BACKED OUT, or did you forget about that???PACS NET WORTH IS 26 MILLION.

                    HE HAS NEVER EVEN MADE 26 MILLION IN ANY FIGHT....

                    So why would he expect some ungodly number now??? LOL

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                    • HEZEKYHWH
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                      at the lower weights pacquiao was more wild and aggressive relying alot on his straight left punch...as pac moved up in weight his style changed a bit from being strictly wild and aggressive to more patient and learning to counter and pick his shots..he also started using his right hand more than he used to. just watch his fight with someone like ledwaba or barrera 1 and compare it to his fights from 130+...you can argue that pac hasn't improved since 2008..but to say pac hasn't improved or at least changed his style at all and is the same fighter that beat guys like ledwaba and barrera 1 is ridiculous.
                      MAN YOU BELIEVE AN OLD MAN IN THE WAY OF RON PAUL THATS ABOUT TO DIE IS THE FUTURE FOR YOUR INDEBTED ASS... STOP BORROWING.... AND ON A SIDE NOTE, EVER SEEN MANNY CHECK HOOK? PULL COUNTER???

                      THE MAN LEAPS WHEN HE PUNCHES!!! LOL



                      TAILOR MADE FOR FLOYD!!!!



                      This fight is gonna be so lopsided, it aint funny lol.....

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