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that does not mean that that is right. theres a lot of fighters also saying pacquiao won. watch the fight and count the punches that landed from both fighters -
amir khan said that he thought marquez won, but after watching it again he said he was wrong & said that manny won the fight.Originally posted by I'm so sorry View PostComment
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read what this person had to say:Originally posted by I'm so sorry View Post
I challenge those who scored the Marquez/Pacquiao 3 fight for Marquez. On what basis did Marquez win that fight on November 12? For those who favor Pacquiao in a win, they have the punch stat numbers to show. CompuBox tally 176 punches landed for Manny Pacquiao and only 138 for Juan Manuel Marquez. It also shows that Pacquiao clearly inflicted more damage on his opponent. All three official judges unanimously agreed that Marquez did not beat Pacquiao.
Pro Marquez fans will counter that they don’t have the confidence in the numbers presented by CompuBox. Well then, they should provide the number that they can legitimately present as the true stats. I see none from writers and bloggers from Mexico, Europe, Philippines, the USA or anywhere on the globe providing those numbers that favors Marquez.Comment
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In the pantheon of disgraceful decisions in the history of boxing this one willOriginally posted by avengingangel View Post
go down as one of the most notorious. Juan Manuel Marquez, at the age of 38,
has just seen his best performance in the ring to comprehensively out box, out
think, out work, and out hustle Manny Pacquiao over 12 rounds stolen from him
by three judges who have brought shame to the sport. It was an historic
performance. It should have resulted in a unanimous decision in favour of Juan
Manuel Marquez. Instead he lost and so did the sport of boxing.,,,,
http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=29847&more=1
After 12 rounds of what appeared to many at ringside and nearly all of the crowd
of 16,368 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena to be a solid win for Marquez, two ringside
judges saw a fight only a businessman or a blind man could have seen.
Somehow Judge Glenn Trowbridge scored the bout 116-112 for Pacquiao and Dave Moretti
had it 115-113 for the WBO welterweight titleholder. The third, Robert Hoyle, had it
a draw 114-114. Meanwhile, a number of ringside observers saw Marquez winning 116-112
and as much as 117-112. When Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, was asked in the
ring if he agreed his fighter had beaten Marquez again he waited for a moment before
answering.
“The fight was close,’’ Roach said. “It was very close.’’
Not really. Not unless you brought a pencil to ringside with you.
Later he would say he felt his man pulled it out in the last two rounds while also
conceding “it could have gone either way.’’ As endorsements go, it wasn’t exactly a
ringing one. What was more telling was an hour later when he said, “It’s the kind
of fight I don’t want to do again but we have to. S__t. He’s given us problems three
times.....
http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...ss-to-pacquiao
Pacquaio “Wins,” Marquez is “robbed” and boxing “loses”.....
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-boxing-loses-
The opinions of many within the ringside media and those at the post-fight
press conference were somewhat mixed, but the overwhelming majority felt that
the legend from Mexico City had been robbed. The general consensus is that
Marquez’ counter punching controlled the pace of the contest and that he
landed the harder shots. By: Mike Sloan, ringside in Las Vegas.
By Round 9, the unfathomable seemed more than possible, and people began to
say it out loud: Pacquiao might lose. Pacquiao is losing ~ NYtimes.com
Fighthype - Marquez 115 Pacquiao 113
SecondsOut.com - Marquez 116 Pacquiao 113
Amir Khan / Julio Cesar Chavez - Marquez won !!
Oscar De La Hoya - Marquez won !!
Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!" http://twitter.com/#!/TheMarvelous0ne
Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!" http://twitter.com/#!/therealbhop
OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is." http://twitter.com/#!/oscardelahoya
Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andredirrell
ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/SUPERJUDAH
Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#" http://twitter.com/#!/usscunningham
Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"
Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/mattmacklin
Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andreward
Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."
Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though"
Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"
Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****."
Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard." http://twitter.com/#!/RASHADHOLLOWAY
Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME.
#LongLiveDinamitaMarquez" http://twitter.com/#!/_FernandoVargas
Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges." http://twitter.com/#!/1Babybull
Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds." http://twitter.com/#!/amirkingkhan
Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money." http://twitter.com/The_Man_Mundine
Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the ***** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!" http://twitter.com/terrible100
Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!" http://twitter.com/jeanpascalchamp
Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport." http://twitter.com/#!/Kholt456
Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/PrideOfProvComment
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those people just say things without really thinking of what theyre saying. how did marquez win if he was out punched 176 to 138 & 117 to 100 in power punches? they should provide proof why they think marquez won, i think they were just been affected by the shoe shine punches with the help of marquez fans cheer.Last edited by avengingangel; 03-26-2012, 03:02 AM.Comment
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you will never look the other direction so there's really no point.Originally posted by avengingangel View Post
you don't really put all of your faith into this "compubox" do you? I seriously hope you are aware that "compubox" is merely a person standing there pushing a button every time he thinks a punch as been landed.Comment
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Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Will Carroll, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
Chris Koegler, TheRealHook.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
David Kassel, FightHype.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Rob Rutz, MyBoxingFans.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Brian Mazique, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Glen Anglin, ************.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Skip Bayless, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Bill Shimizu, Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Massimo Lopes Pegna, La Gazzetta dello Sport (Italy): 115-114 Pacquiao
James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Anthony Lee, ************.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
John McCormick, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/*********.com/ESPN: 115-113 Pacquiao
Nick Fors, Pasionsports.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ronald Geronimo, NowBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Danny Serratelli, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Sean Faye, Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Mike Chiari, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Patrick L. Stumberg, SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jason Peck, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ben Weisman, ************.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Madra Uladh, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, ESPN/TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
"Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Greg Leon, **********.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Steve Marzolf, InsideHBOBoxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Darrell La Montre, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: 115-113 Pacquiao
End of story - Pac won. Marquez now has to fight cab drivers to see if his face will still hold up after all the punishment it took from pacComment
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Compubox doesn't mean ish but merely a gauge to see if someone is dominated (in case of wide margins). To me, this fight is just as subjective as anyone's opinions, there is no clear winner, but if you point out some facts supporting the other fighter, you might say he did win, but it is just too unsure since the other party has their own. And bull**** this fight, lets get it over with, this article is about a robber, d@mnit!Comment
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In first glance, JMM won in Pac-JMM 3, however if you will review the footage, Pac won most of the rounds. Me, myself scored it UD win for Pac without bias. JMM is a good fighter but as a challenger, he should work more in ensuring victory, not that in a close decision then claiming victory at the end. If he really needed to win, he should do in an obvious way in dismantling Pac.
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LOL p@ctards. I remember all the Filipinos walking out of the MGM grand that night looking like somebody they loved had just DIED
Oh well, anyway, tough break.Comment
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