hardest puncher today P4P?

[New England]

Johny González probably

And Donaire

Both have unbelievable power for their weights

was waiting for somebody to say johnny gonzalez
he's a sleeper

bailey too, although gonzalez is a better fighter than bailey.

those two can really ****

[New England]

Why? Canelo isn't cutting any lights out either. What he did to Baldimor was cool, thats about it.

i dont think he's top flight with the punching yet but the kid can crack

you can tell that everybody in the ring with him has respected his power, and he's still a very young man just hitting the man strong years

[New England]

He's not knocking the men out though. BReaking their face with an accumulation of punches means what exactly? If you hit a nail with a hammer gently, the nail will still go in, just slower. But can you finish the job with 1 punch?

Pacman finishes fights with an accumulation of punches. Nothing more.

How many fighters today are putting their mean CLEAN OUT when they land a punch?

I've got to be honest with you, ****ty Ratio aside,

Martinez has been putting EVERYONE on ***** street lately. It's pretty frightening, I can definitely see why people would say he's on something.

Literally every time he's making significant contact now, the guy is wobbling.

Stopping a fighter doesn't show power - KNOCKING HIM OUT shows power. I see a lot of guys getting a knod in this discussion, like Ortiz for instance, but ortiz has never shut any lights out like that.

You want to talk power? Literally everytime Bute releases that uppercut.. to the head or the body, it's almost an immidiate lights out.

THATS power.

he jello'd ricky hatton and he's a former lineal flyweight and long time FW

historically there's not a guy in boxing that can hold a candle to p4p punching power like that

it's easy what you take for granted. i do the very same thing.


other than margarito and marquez his recent opponents have finished the fight simply trying to survive
he's a true great p4p puncher.

[wizard king]

true one punch ko power and if u get up ur not going to recover before you get ktfo again
thats real punch power and doing it time after time not like a one time thing like pac did against hatton and that man is martinez hands down end of topic.

[intoccabile]

he jello'd ricky hatton and he's a former lineal flyweight and long time FW

historically there's not a guy in boxing that can hold a candle to p4p punching power like that

it's easy what you take for granted. i do the very same thing.


other than margarito and marquez his recent opponents have finished the fight simply trying to survive
he's a true great p4p puncher.

And what has he done since hatton? hell, even before hatton, he was never knocking guys out flush with 1 punch, at least not EARLY. That hatton thing was something he hadn't done in forever, it was a great punch, credit where credits due, but what has he done since and what did he do before? I think people seriously overrate pacmans power.

He has CONSISTENT power. He hits at maximum power all night long. Whereas most guys lose sting late, pacman maintains it and it breaks people. But his 1 punch power is what is in question and it isn't there.

I use to watch Videos of Julius Jackson land a punch on peoples elbows and they'd stagger. That's power man. That's the type of stuff Wlad brings to the table, Mugabi, Ben, Tito, etc etc.


Thats why Donaire is brought up, or hell, even Gamboa for that matter. These dudes land a counter and it's game over, early too. No wear and tear, no breaking the man down. But the power hasn't looked that great as they moved up the way Mosleys power has for example

[New England]

And what has he done since hatton? hell, even before hatton, he was never knocking guys out flush with 1 punch, at least not EARLY. That hatton thing was something he hadn't done in forever, it was a great punch, credit where credits due, but what has he done since and what did he do before? I think people seriously overrate pacmans power.

He has CONSISTENT power. He hits at maximum power all night long. Whereas most guys lose sting late, pacman maintains it and it breaks people. But his 1 punch power is what is in question and it isn't there.

I use to watch Videos of Julius Jackson land a punch on peoples elbows and they'd stagger. That's power man. That's the type of stuff Wlad brings to the table, Mugabi, Ben, Tito, etc etc.

do you really need me to go through that, lol?
here's a brief outline. it takes a good while to go through the resume of an ATG and do it justice and cover everything

the guy dropped cotto twice
shane mosley once
made clottey have to take a boom
broke margarito's face

and before (at and around FW) that he's dropped marquez four times
knocked out morales twice and barerra out once
ledwaba at 122

and prior to that he was a flyweight world champion

how is that not a great p4p puncher?


you're talking about julian jackson like i've never even heard the name before. julian jackson was a MASSIVE jr mw and a big MW. he never fought below 149 lbs.

you dont even know the guy's name.. (it's not julius.)

of course he's going to do more damage than a former flyweight who started boxing at around 100 lbs who is now hurting big and durable WW (clottey, margarito, and mosley are huge WW with great chins)

[intoccabile]

do you really need me to go through that, lol?
here's a brief outline. it takes a good while to go through the resume of an ATG and do it justice and cover everything

the guy dropped cotto twice
shane mosley once
made clottey have to take a boom
broke margarito's face

and before (at and around FW) that he's dropped marquez four times
knocked out morales twice and barerra out once
ledwaba at 122

and prior to that he was a flyweight world champion

how is that not a great p4p puncher?


you're talking about julian jackson like i've never even heard the name before. julian jackson was a MASSIVE jr mw and a big MW. he never fought below 149 lbs.

you dont even know the guy's name.. (it's not julius.)

of course he's going to do more damage than a former flyweight who started boxing at around 100 lbs who is now hurting big and durable WW (clottey, margarito, and mosley are huge WW with great chins)

Do I have to spell it for you?
Pacquiao landed 474 punches on Margarito.
Mosley landed 108.

He didn't break anything, didn't even cut or make Margarito bleed. But he knocked him out.

Pacman does a lot of damage, i am not arguing that, i would never. But you are overrated his power. His speed, accuracy, volume, it all adds up. The man tears **** up, there is no denying that. Taking the weight he started at into account then yeah, you have an argument for p4p but the title is asking who hits the hardest p4p today, not including where they started at.

If you let him hit you once, and then go through the list of other men in his weight class with power, for instance, they'd have the harder single punch. That's what I look at for power. Lights out. Not fatigued, battered, or too beaten to continue. But wake up after the count.

And Also, I didn't spell his name wrong at all. I am replying to you via Iphone, Julian is auto-turned into Julius

[pgolf]

I'd go with either Klits.

[waxfondler]

damn i miss thunder gatti.

[Rolaz]

But so many of those opponents were stopped by the referee or their own corner, still on their feet, just outmatched.

A guy that Lennox Lewis jacked up in two rounds and ran from George Foreman stood in front of and took hundreds of flush punches from him (Shannon Briggs)

KO percentage dosen't tell the whole story.

You have to take into consideration that the Thread is on 3 Boxers only. Whether it was stopped by Referee or the opponent' Corner, it still considered Official, a Rule is always a Rule! And the Boxer Official Boxing Record remains Official.