Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Wants Drug Testing, Chavez Jr. Rejects It

[Russian Crushin]

You're on record saying even if fighters actually take blood tests it doesn't mean they're clean.

One minute you're saying they need to prove they're clean by taking the test, the next minute you're saying it still doesn't prove they're clean by taking the test.

Like I said, "Weird". I use weird instead of ****** now a days.

oh am I...I would like to see this

I probably said unless they take the real year round testing, they can't be guaranteed clean but ok

And you consider a fighter clean if they willing to take the test but never actually take it

A very guilible person you are, how come you don't like PAC?

[BoxingGenius27]

Again I have pointed out that link plenty of times. Clegg, has also issued that link out in Bringer thread asking if Ward should be questioned of doping. It's been talked about.

Now whether you choose to ignore it or dismiss it cuz' it's not worded the way that you like and play ignorant to the whole thing. Then so be it.

If you want to use ignorance and act like you don't have any reading comprehension and ask for links every time. Cool, just keep expecting to my type of responses but I'm not going to keep wasting my time getting links cuz' you choose it ignore things.

Myself and many others have never seen the link you're talking about.

[Roman Moreno]

The commission and Conte use this same excuse.

To be fair, it is really expensive.

No it is not, VADA is cost friendly. Which commission use that excuse? The one that test using a 6:1 T/E ratio?

Conte has NOT used the VADA is expensive as an excuse...He has said the opposite. Why make up lies?

Conte -who works with Ward, even though Ward lied about it- probably used that excuse for WADA but not VADA.

Ward made that excuse up after VADA was already up and running. How can VADA be expensive yet the likes of Berto-Ortiz, Khan-Peterson, and Canelo-Mosley be able to afford it?

Arthur Abraham and damn near every fighter from Sauereland promotions goes through OST. Is on their contract. They can afford it.

Ward excuse of cost doesn't fly.

[BoxingGenius27]

What's with this "oh but he's willing to take the test" bullshiiit?

You don't prove you're clean by saying you would take the test, you prove you're clean by TAKING the tests

But Khan and ward said they'll take the test, guess that makes em clean

vs.

I probably said unless they take the real year round testing, they can't be guaranteed clean but ok

Let's pick one and stick with it.

One minute you're saying if the "commission" doesn't mandate it, a fighter doesn't have to test. Then you're saying the only way to know if theyre clean is take the test.

The next minute you're saying if they're not testing year round, they're not clean.

Stop flip flopping when it comes to Pac, but changing for others.

Contradicting are we?

[BoxingGenius27]

No it is not, VADA is cost friendly. Which commission use that excuse? The one that test using a 6:1 T/E ratio?

Conte has NOT used the VADA is expensive as an excuse...He has said the opposite. Why make up lies?

Conte -who works with Ward, even though Ward lied about it- probably used that excuse for WADA but not VADA.

Ward made that excuse up after VADA was already up and running. How can VADA be expensive yet the likes of Berto-Ortiz, Khan-Peterson, and Canelo-Mosley be able to afford it?

Arthur Abraham and damn near every fighter from Sauereland promotions goes through OST. Is on their contract. They can afford it.

Ward excuse of cost doesn't fly.

I was talking about WADA, not VADA. I haven't done enough research on VADA to comment about it.

Again, I'm talking about WADA.

Again, where's this link about Ward refusing testing like Pac and Chavez Jr?

See, this is the same thing that happened last year. I ask for a link and you duck my question like a drug test.

[Russian Crushin]

vs.



Let's pick one and stick with it.

One minute you're saying if the "commission" doesn't mandate it, a fighter doesn't have to test. Then you're saying the only way to know if theyre clean is take the test.

The next minute you're saying if they're not testing year round, they're not clean.

Stop flip flopping when it comes to Pac, but changing for others.

Contradicting are we?

Wtf when did I say anything about the commission mandating it?

All I said was that you're not any bit cleaner by saying you'd be willing to take test but never taking them. Only way to prove you're clean is by taking the test.

The test being OST ( which is year round random test)

Your attempts to catch me in contradictions are hilarious, especially considering you just make up things

[BoxingGenius27]

Wtf when did I say anything about the commission mandating it?

All I said was that you're not any bit cleaner by saying you'd be willing to take test but never taking them. Only way to prove you're clean is by taking the test.

The test being OST ( which is year round random test)

Your attempts to catch me in contradictions are hilarious, especially considering you just make up things

Ok, we'll see if they're attempts.

[Russian Crushin]

I was talking about WADA, not VADA. I haven't done enough research on VADA to comment about it.

Again, I'm talking about WADA.

Again, where's this link about Ward refusing testing like Pac and Chavez Jr?

See, this is the same thing that happened last year. I ask for a link and you duck my question like a drug test.

Refusing it like PAC and chavez? So you want a link where Ward flat out says he's not taking the test, which obviously doesn't exist but ones where he makes excuse that prevent him from taking it and then actually NOT taking them is not enough for you?

If a fighter says he's willing to take the test, he better be willingly implementing those tests on himself

Otherwise he's no cleaner then any other fighter

[Russian Crushin]

Ok, we'll see if they're attempts.

Ok good lick digging thru posts and threads from 3 years ago

[Roman Moreno]

I was talking about WADA, not VADA. I haven't done enough research on VADA to comment about it.

Again, I'm talking about WADA.

Again, where's this link about Ward refusing testing like Pac and Chavez Jr?

See, this is the same thing that happened last year. I ask for a link and you duck my question like a drug test.

It doesn't matter what you're talking about. OST is OST either VADA or WADA. And, VADA is cost friendly. VADA is what Sergio wants for Chavez.

The cost excuse can't fly with Ward. So he either has to start doing it or come up with a new excuse.

Also anyone remembers Ward team lying, straight up lying about Froch-Ward having OST? SMH.

I could already see your response if that was Chavez and Pac.

I'm not going to keep providing the sames link over and over. It was an issue, Ward didn't accept, the fight went on without having it. You want to read go use the search function. Hell go look at The_bringer threads made on NSB. It was talk on there and it won't be hard to find. Since he barely makes threads on NSB. Not going to do your homework for you.