Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Wants Drug Testing, Chavez Jr. Rejects It

[BoxingGenius27]

What's with this "oh but he's willing to take the test" bullshiiit?

You don't prove you're clean by saying you would take the test, you prove you're clean by TAKING the tests

But Khan and ward said they'll take the test, guess that makes em clean

Actually, now that I think about it, it doesn't matter if they take the test or not with you.

You're on record saying that taking blood test still don't mean anything so why take them at all.

If it was up to you and your weird idealogies, boxing wouldn't have drug testing period.

You make much sense man.

[Roman Moreno]

Yep, cleaner than straight refusing it.

I've been noticing weird ideologies from you for quite some time now.

But, Ward has refuse it against AA. And, you still give him a pass for it though. Because, he has said he was willing to take it so many times.

When the issue was first brought up to Pac. They agreed to it, they said it was fine bring it on. Then they refused when it was brought up. Now again they will say it they will take it. Would they refuse again later on? I don't know, it wouldn't surprise me.

Point is that I use to believe the same thing. If a fighter says they're willing then they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But, then I was also reminded of Gary Sheffield. Now IMO if you're coming out, that you're willing to take it. You better start taking it. Because, if you don't then you just coming off as hypocritical. I don't care if "it looks good" it is not better. And, then if you pull the stuff Pac did with Floyd and Ward did with AA then SMH.

[Russian Crushin]

Yep, cleaner than straight refusing it.

I've been noticing weird ideologies from you for quite some time now.

Weird idealogy from me? That makes no sense...how does a fighter actually prove he's cleaner by saying he'd be willing to take the test yet doesn't take the test?

Again only way to prove your clean is by actually taking the test. There is no degrees of being clean, you're either clean or you aren't, there's no in between

Simple

[BoxingGenius27]

But, Ward has refuse it against AA. And, you still give him a pass for it though. Because, he has said he was willing to take it so many times.

When the issue was first brought up to Pac. They agreed to it, they said it was fine bring it on. Then they refused when it was brought up. Now again they will say it they will take it. Would they refuse again later on? I don't know, it wouldn't surprise me.

Point is that I use to believe the same thing. If a fighter says they're willing then they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But, then I was also reminded of Gary Sheffield. Now IMO if you're coming out, that you're willing to take it. You better start taking it. Because, if you don't then you just coming off as hypocritical. I don't care if "it looks good" it is not better. And, then if you pull the stuff Pac did with Floyd and Ward did with AA then SMH.

Jro, I asked you for an article proving that Ward refuse the tests and you never replied.

I asked for your evidence backing this up last year and you ducked my question like Pac and Chavez Jr duck tests.

Why'd it take you so long to find the link to back up your claim???

Does it exist?

Why are you the only one claiming this??

[BoxingGenius27]

Weird idealogy from me? That makes no sense...how does a fighter actually prove he's cleaner by saying he'd be willing to take the test yet doesn't take the test?

Again only way to prove your clean is by actually taking the test. There is no degrees of being clean, you're either clean or you aren't, there's no in between

Simple

You're on record saying even if fighters actually take blood tests it doesn't mean they're clean.

One minute you're saying they need to prove they're clean by taking the test, the next minute you're saying it still doesn't prove they're clean by taking the test.

Like I said, "Weird". I use weird instead of ****** now a days.

[Roman Moreno]

Jro, I asked you for an article proving that Ward refuse the tests and you never replied.

I asked for your evidence backing this up last year and you ducked my question like Pac and Chavez Jr duck tests.

Why'd it take you so long to find the link to back up your claim???

Does it exist?

Why are you the only one claiming this??

I already gave you a link. A boxingscene link of how OST was a roadblock in that fight along with the venue when they were in negotiations. I'm tired of giving out that link.

If you want to ignore it because the fight still went through without it...Then so be it. I'm not going to give the same link. Ward had an issue with it. That fight didn't have it. Plain and simple it didn't have it. And, AA had it with Taylor, Froch, and other fights. It is what it is. I don't care if you accepted or not. I'm not going to go look for a link than anyone can get by using the search function. I have given it out plenty of times.

[Roman Moreno]

Another excuse for Andre Ward not using OST. It cost too much, the cost

[BoxingGenius27]

I already gave you a link. A boxingscene link of how OST was a roadblock in that fight along with the venue when they were in negotiations. I'm tired of giving out that link.

If you want to ignore it because the fight still went through without it...Then so be it. I'm not going to give the same link. Ward had an issue with it. That fight didn't have it. Plain and simple it didn't have it. And, AA had it with Taylor, Froch, and other fights. It is what it is. I don't care if you accepted or not. I'm not going to go look for a link than anyone can get by using the search function. I have given it out plenty of times.

Me and BattlingNelson both asked for that link last year and you never replied.

I'm good at posting with links. I've looked and never found what you're talking about.

If you want to say Ward is dirty, cool. Just keep expecting to see my type of responses that's all.

[BoxingGenius27]

Another excuse for Andre Ward not using OST. It cost too much, the cost

The commission and Conte use this same excuse.

To be fair, it is really expensive.

[Roman Moreno]

Me and BattlingNelson both asked for that link last year and you never replied.

I'm good at posting with links. I've looked and never found what you're talking about.

If you want to say Ward is dirty, cool. Just keep expecting to see my type of responses that's all.

Again I have pointed out that link plenty of times. Clegg, has also issued that link out in Bringer thread asking if Ward should be questioned of doping. It's been talked about.

Now whether you choose to ignore it or dismiss it cuz' it's not worded the way that you like and play ignorant to the whole thing. Then so be it.

If you want to use ignorance and act like you don't have any reading comprehension and ask for links every time. Cool, just keep expecting to my type of responses but I'm not going to keep wasting my time getting links cuz' you choose it ignore things.