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  • #21
    Originally posted by ny123 View Post
    Chavez has tested positive for a diuretic in the past. This request is 100% valid and shouldn't stop the fight from happening.
    But, it was quite obvious that it was going to as soon as he requested it.

    Like Clegg said. It was difficult fight to get for in the first place. This just kills it. Should Chavez take it? Yea of course. But, they just found a way out of the fight. Anyone with common sense could have seen it coming.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
      Andre Ward is not a Roach stable fighter. As far as I know only 3 fighters have declined better testing. Pac, Ward, and now Chavez. Khan a Roach fighter has been doing random testing since turning pro by the BBC. Not jumpy at all just can tell BS right off the bat. You're insinuating nonsense. But, keep going...
      BS off the bat? How am I insinuating nonsense? I asked a simple question. Leave it to a clown like yourself to make an assumption with it. If i was insinuating anything I would have never asked about the Khan situation, because that would just put me in a position to look like an ass.

      It was a question that I was looking for a legitimate response to, nothing more. You answered it, thank you, but the assumption that came with it wasn't warranted. Maybe you've dealt with enough Floyd groupies to fuel your indiscretion toward anything involving roach and drug testing - but I'm not a floyd fan or a top rank hater. I was just asking a simple question as the coincidence popped in my head, nothing more.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya View Post
        is he afraid to fight chavez? if he's not, then he should push through with the fight...no amount of drugs can beat a good fighter...unless he's scared like chicken floyd mayweather...
        Well dam....if everybody thought like u wed have a highlight reel of kos on a nightly basis we would have a new homerun record almost yearly and not to mention thr first football combine hosted bye bill romanowski lol seriously if u were at work and ur superv pulled a group into his office and passed out cups and somebody got had a bunch of reasons y he shouldnt piss youd be su****ious too jcc=señor juice

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        • #24
          Originally posted by p4p-champ View Post
          The only idiots here are the ones that believe there is nothing su****ious with refusing drug testing...and even after already testing positive for illegal substances in the past...think about it maricon.
          Think about what? That Chavez is using diuretic? I don't think about that. With or without testing.

          But, that's not what your original post implied. So think about it faggot/maricon any language that you want to say it in.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
            What is obvious?

            When did Andre Ward start working with Roach/Ariza? Khan has worked with Roach and Ariza. Linares has never been asked to take the test. So he has never turned it down. Chavez has a history of diuretic but that was prior working with Roach/Ariza way before. Before right now only one fighter. JUST ONE FIGHTER that works with Roach/Ariza has denied the testing.

            So I repeat what is the obvious?
            The obvious is that the bulk of drug testing declines evolve around Roaches camp. Be it with 1 fighters or 2, it's still all always pertaining to a fighter in Roaches camp. Even if it's just 1 fighter, when there are 100 articles with Freddie Roaches name on them, it's all you tend to think about the next time a declined drug test is headlined.

            Andre Ward declined a drug test? Cool, I knew this. It didn't dawn on me instantly though, because it was covered ONCE, just once, while pacmans stuff has bee covered damn near a million times.

            Come to think of it, Hopkins declined Pascals drug test offer as well, and what of Ortiz/Berto, did Ortiz decline or Accept Bertos drug testing offer?

            See? It's all coming back to me now, but I repeat, none of it came to the forefront when I read this because hardly any of the other drug testing arguments are headlined. And so I asked the simple question which you assumed had some type of subliminal message tagged to it, it didn't. Some of us do ask legitimate questions every now and then.

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            • #26
              This is getting ridiculous now. Either implement it for all or not at all. Using testing as a negotiating tool seems to be getting out of hand now. I'm all for better testing as a whole for ALL fighters. Not just a select few when used as a bargaining ploy.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                What is obvious?

                When did Andre Ward start working with Roach/Ariza? Khan has worked with Roach and Ariza. Linares has never been asked to take the test. So he has never turned it down. Chavez has a history of diuretic but that was prior working with Roach/Ariza way before. Before right now only one fighter. JUST ONE FIGHTER that works with Roach/Ariza has denied the testing.

                So I repeat what is the obvious?
                whats obvious is that your an idiot that thinks a fighter doest have the right to ask for drug testing.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                  What is obvious?

                  When did Andre Ward start working with Roach/Ariza? Khan has worked with Roach and Ariza. Linares has never been asked to take the test. So he has never turned it down. Chavez has a history of diuretic but that was prior working with Roach/Ariza way before. Before right now only one fighter. JUST ONE FIGHTER that works with Roach/Ariza has denied the testing.

                  So I repeat what is the obvious?
                  But why shouldn't Martinez ask for a drug test knowing Chavez has a history of being dirty? In my opinion, Martinez should just push forward and get his belt back and derail Chavez's hype train. No amount of steroid's can make Chavez Jr a good fighter. Andre Ward is suspect too for not taking it. Any professional fighter who performs on a high level of the sport or in general should have no problem taking blood tests.

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                  • #29
                    I didnt see a single quote from Chavez saying they wouldnt test.
                    Did anyone else see any quotes from Chavez or his team saying they wouldnt agree to the testing??

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by wizard king View Post
                      whats obvious is that your an idiot that thinks a fighter doest have the right to ask for drug testing.
                      When did I say that a fighter doesn't have the right to ask for drug testing? Show me please.

                      Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                      But, it was quite obvious that it was going to as soon as he requested it.

                      Like Clegg said. It was difficult fight to get for in the first place. This just kills it. Should Chavez take it? Yea of course. But, they just found a way out of the fight. Anyone with common sense could have seen it coming.
                      In this same thread I clearly stated that Chavez should go through with it.

                      So what are you talking about exactly?

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