Who's the better trainer overall? Freddie Roach or Robert Garcia

[thuggery]

I personally think Robert Garcia is the better trainer when it comes to pure boxing. He actually trains his fighters on how to box effectively in every aspect, whereas I feel like Roach's training revolves around nothing but speed and power.

In most Roach training videos, especially when he trains Pac, is just him telling Pacquiao to throw fast combinations and then take a step to the right. Then when Pac actually fights he does none of that. All heavy bag and pad work it seems. I guess you could say it's been working since he hasn't lost but you can tell he's a one dimensional fighter throwing wild punches from weird angles. Seems as though this is something he picked up from his training.

Then we have Amir Khan, this guy is just the epitome of an incomplete fighter and I think it's due to his trainer. Horrible defense, throws wild jabs, and don't even get me started on his inside fighting.

Who do you think is the better trainer and why? Vote in poll.

Notable Robert Garcia fighters: Antonio Margarito, Nonito Donaire, Brandon Rios, Miguel Garcia, Kelly Pavlik, Victor Ortiz for a while

Notable Freddie Roach fighters: Manny Pacquiao, Amir Khan, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., and UFC's Georges St. Pierre

[vironaprile8]

I personally think Robert Garcia is the better trainer when it comes to pure boxing. He actually trains his fighters on how to box effectively in every aspect, whereas I feel like Roach's training revolves around nothing but speed and power.

In most Roach training videos, especially when he trains Pac, is just him telling Pacquiao to throw fast combinations and then take a step to the right. Then when Pac actually fights he does none of that. All heavy bag and pad work it seems. I guess you could say it's been working since he hasn't lost but you can tell he's a one dimensional fighter throwing wild punches from weird angles. You can tell this is something he picked up from his training.

Then we have Amir Khan, this guy is just the epitome of a incomplete fighter and I think it's do to his trainer. Horrible defense, throws wild jabs, and don't even get me started on his inside fighting.

Who do you think is the better trainer and why? Vote in poll.

Notable Robert Garcia fighters: Antonio Margarito, Nonito Donaire, Brandon Rios, Miguel Garcia, Kelly Pavlik, Victor Ortiz for a while

Notable Freddie Roach fighters: Manny Pacquiao, Amir Khan, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., and UFC's Georges St. Pierre

I'd say ROach even though I feel he's overrated too.

[#CaneloKhan]

I'd say ROach even though I feel he's overrated too.

I feel roach knows more boxing triner wise but I think he thinks The way he taught Manny or reshaped Manny is the best technique so He trys to make all his fighters fight in that style, which he hasnt had any success in doing. All his fighters last year lost. Cause he teaches them nothing but be first and dont back up and when you get out get out in angle, thats it. Where as robert teaches all his fighters based on what they good at and he perfects that style and adds some lil extra here and their he doesnt try to change the fighter into a completely different fighter.

This is the reason I think Garcia is a better trainer then roach,

[Atreyu Khalil]

Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs
DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

[Brother Jay]

Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs
DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

Well isn't that a b!tch?

I thought Freddie said that he doesn't know anything about steroids?

[elfag]

"the cuban guy", hes the best coach!

[thuggery]

Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs
DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

damn

[Rome-By-Ko]

Garcia has a lot more to prove before I would put him with Roach,so right now I would say Roach..But Garcia might have more potenial to do greater things,with more fighters then Roach...

[BTNHfan]

this should be a no brainer. Fredie Roach by far.

Garcia is bad such a bad coach. There is no improvement with Rios, hes still a simple straight up so called boxer.
Robert Garcia should have stopped the Margarito fight sooner than the ref.
And Nonito is where hes at because of his natural talent. I dont see any improvements yet and I fear if Garcia doesnt pick up the pace Nonito will pay the price as he moves up in weight and tougher opponents.

[Evil Abed]

Freddie Roach. More experience in the game.

Garcia still a young pup.