Ortiz, and Mayweather are the only ones...Ortiz used to beat the crap out of Pac so bad in sparring that roach had to break it up ...everytime they sparred Ortiz waxed thadass...Ortiz was 155 back then, but he will be 164 this time...Ortiz isnt big and slow and washed up like Pac's opponents,...He's fast with one punch knockdown power...Pac is very small...and Pac likes to engage...I think Pac CAN win, but he has to be carefull...I see him going through a war and getting knocked down a few times...but also, I think Khan has a chance as well...Khan and Pac have identical styles, except Khan is twice as fast, way taller, longer...Khan is actually faster than Floyd and Pac both...but I see Khan vs Pac being similar to Khan vs Judah, except Pac throwing more punches and giving Khan more oppurtunities to counter...Pac has a GREAT Chance if he tries to walk through the punches like Peterson..only one thing..Pete is just about the same size as Khan with similar reach...not only that, but we all know Khan beat himself that night by getting lazy and giving rounds away...Khan can run and fight backwards...I see tough matchup between Khan and Pac as well...other than that..no one..and Bradley is too small, will get KO'd in 3 rounds...Pac is far too powerful for that little man...Pac was overtrained when he fought Marquez and had no power to hurt him...Pac's gonna be back to normal this fight, and destroy Bradley..Pac is too strong and fast for anyone to avoid all of his brain damaging punches but some can give him fits
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Yes they need to fight again..Pac is ducking the guy for Bradley...to me, Pac fighting Marquez at WELTERWEIGHT was not their third fight,...he was fighting the NEW Pac at a NEW Class, and to me, it was the beginning of a whole new series, expescially with the fixComment
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Overtrained? GTFO it was his best training camp ever according to the miraculous Araiza. In the extremely unlikely case that he was overtrained, overtraining doesn't makes you lose all your power so you can't hurt a 38 years old lightweight ... Manny actually had a good training camp, you could see in JMM vs Pac III that Pacquiao was in great shape, he was able to fight for the entire 12 rounds without getting extremely tired.Ortiz, and Mayweather are the only ones...Ortiz used to beat the crap out of Pac so bad in sparring that roach had to break it up ...everytime they sparred Ortiz waxed thadass...Ortiz was 155 back then, but he will be 164 this time...Ortiz isnt big and slow and washed up like Pac's opponents,...He's fast with one punch knockdown power...Pac is very small...and Pac likes to engage...I think Pac CAN win, but he has to be carefull...I see him going through a war and getting knocked down a few times...but also, I think Khan has a chance as well...Khan and Pac have identical styles, except Khan is twice as fast, way taller, longer...Khan is actually faster than Floyd and Pac both...but I see Khan vs Pac being similar to Khan vs Judah, except Pac throwing more punches and giving Khan more oppurtunities to counter...Pac has a GREAT Chance if he tries to walk through the punches like Peterson..only one thing..Pete is just about the same size as Khan with similar reach...not only that, but we all know Khan beat himself that night by getting lazy and giving rounds away...Khan can run and fight backwards...I see tough matchup between Khan and Pac as well...other than that..no one..and Bradley is too small, will get KO'd in 3 rounds...Pac is far too powerful for that little man...Pac was overtrained when he fought Marquez and had no power to hurt him...Pac's gonna be back to normal this fight, and destroy Bradley..Pac is too strong and fast for anyone to avoid all of his brain damaging punches but some can give him fits
He fought like shit because Marquez was great and Pacquiao and Roach were very confused of what they could do to change the way things were going, it had nothing to do with conditioning.Comment
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I kno...but size, style, and speed,,,and NATURAL defense...I put Linares defense up their with Floyd's, his reflexes are just WAAAY sharper...and Linares also has bad coaching sometimes, so it ruins his fightsComment
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They always say that, but after the fight Roach said he was overtrained you dummy..LOL..and Pac was all tired, sloppy, winded...He was obviously overtrained, even without roach saying it, I knew he was overtrained...if I wanted I could say He wasnt on roids anymore...but there WAS a difference, and it was his stamina and conditioning...Pac indirectly admitted that Ariza didnt focus on building size, power, and stregnth for that fight...they wanted Pac to be small and fast...but it backfired...he was week, slow, winded, hair messed up, he looked like a dirty dog, I aint never seen him look like a drunk in the ring like that before..lolOvertrained? GTFO it was his best training camp ever according to the miraculous Araiza. In the extremely unlikely case that he was overtrained, overtraining doesn't makes you lose all your power so you can't hurt a 38 years old lightweight ... Manny actually had a good training camp, you could see in JMM vs Pac III that Pacquiao was in great shape, he was able to fight for the entire 12 rounds without getting extremely tired.
He fought like shit because Marquez was great and Pacquiao and Roach were very confused of what they could do to change the way things were going, it had nothing to do with conditioning.Comment
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Who can beat Pac , hmm I think quite a few , but you know what he WILL NOT fight , Ortiz Berto or Cotto without a CW , the only fights he will take are 140 pounders at WW , inhouse paid to lose , or washed up fighters that he ducked when they had something left .
If you really look at Pacs resume , from Diaz on , its a man made snow job , and he is still playing it , thats why he DUCKED Cotto for Bradley , Pac wants no part of Cotto without a CW .
And thats not even mentioning Floyd who will school his ass if they ever meet .
This anther case of the TS being owned in his thread , again lol
Pac is a very good all action fighter that had some great battles in the lower divisions , but he is a WW hype job , and they still ducking and weaving around weight with him , p4p No 1 pigs ass !!Last edited by Reloaded; 03-08-2012, 07:32 PM.Comment


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