Who ranks higher Joe Calzaghe or Wladamir on the atg list?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lol @ Wlad avoiding Lennox and Tyson. Try the other way around. If Lennox had interest in cleaning out the division on the way out he had to face Wlad.

The more you post on here the more ignorant you sound.

Maybe you should stick to basketball.

Wlad was too busy getting KTFO by Sanders and Brewster at the time

[Mr. Invincible]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra

This is the banned substance in Ripped Fuel that Jones tested positive for and admitted taking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/advice/f..._az/ephedrine#


Ephedrine is a stimulant that speeds up the heart and nervous system.

It comes from a shrubby plant known as Ephedra sinensis. The shrub is well known to Chinese herbalists who call it 'Ma Huang'.

Pills and potions containing Ephedra or Ma Huang are sold as herbal E, as dietary aids and as remedies to increase energy and enhance fitness training.

Synthetic ephedrine is used in several cold medicines that you can buy at any chemist.

Crystal meth can be made from ephedrine

You still think it was not performance enhancing, not to mention all the caffeine in Ripped Fuel.

It's used to cut weight, not make one stronger so they can hurt an opponent more or move faster. Thanks for posting that piece. It further solidifies my argument.

[Weebler I]

Roy tested positive for a weight loss ingredient that was banned but was in an over the counter product at the time. That's all that needs be mentioned. Period. End of story. His dominance had nothing to do with steroids you morons.

Did you not read the link posted above by JAT in post #95 or did you choose to ignore it?

Let me repost it so you can digest it fully:

Through his attorney, Jones admitted he had been taking an over-the-counter product called Ripped Fuel. That’s not illegal but it is an anabolic steroid according to the IBF and other other sanctioning bodies.

So he did test positive. He did take Ripped Fuel.

Whether that’s what he took or not we don’t know, but he did test positive and admitted to taking a steroid.

The IBF chose to do nothing. They wanted a second test to be done. But why take a second test when he failed the first one and admitted to taking a steroid? That’s where it ended.

No action was taken. Nobody did anything.

Roy Jones used PEDs, he claimed it was ripped fuel but that claim was not verified. He was caught cheating bang to rights just like Marion Jones, Barry Bonds or any other cheat who made excuses except with boxing it was swept under the carpet.

Now you can continue insulting people in the thread all you want but these are facts and there's no getting away from them.

[Mr. Invincible]

lol! lewis TKO6...2nd place is first loser! never seen a guy get so much out of losing. vitali's face couldn't take a lewis punch & it's not like this was a robbery. it's too bad but vitali got a gift title shot on 2 weeks notice & didn't get it done. he didn't deserve a rematch.

That's complete nonsense. Everyone including you knows he deserved a rematch. If you don't think so, you are in the very small minority.

[Mr. Invincible]

And nobody ****ing believes lennox and tyson ducked wlad.

ROFL is that some kind of sick joke??

rofl.


2003 Sanders destroyed wlad

imagine 2000 Lennox vs 2000 Wlad

wlad would have died in the ring

wlad was the one ducking and for good reason but that don't excuse the fact he is a coward

Wlad was an olypic gold medalist and WBO champ from 2000-2003. What should have kept Lennox from wanting to fight him and unify you ****ing idiot? Keep sucking Lennox's d*ck you mong.

[polarcub]

Olympic gold medalist at the 96 Olympics mean dog ****.

Andre Harrison also won some kind of Olympics didn't he?


Stop defending the fact Wlad ducked Lewis and Tyson..

Or the fact that a 2000-03 version of Wlad would have died against either during that time.


Also bow to Calzaghe's far superior legacy over Wlad.

[polarcub]

Lennox Lewis TKO Vitali


Joe Calzaghe KO WLAD's legacy


British boxing > then Russia? Germany? I don't know what country these 2 are from to be honest, neither does 99% of the world.

[Mr. Invincible]

Yeah Lewis and Tyson ducked Wlad

Holyfield, Tyson and Lewis all fighting each other while Wlad was fighting who?

Seriously who?

Destroying Byrd, Botha, Mercer and McCline. All good respectable fighters at the time. Tyson was fighting bums and his camp knew the Klitschko's would destroy him.

Both Klitschko's had titles at the time and Tyson never, ever mentioned them. Why?

They both badly wanted Lennox and Tyson and it's well documented.

Keep trying hater.

[Mr. Invincible]

Wlad was too busy getting KTFO by Sanders and Brewster at the time

Is that any different than getting ko'd by Rahman, Danny Williams or fricken Kevin McBride?

[Mr. Invincible]

Did you not read the link posted above by JAT in post #95 or did you choose to ignore it?

Let me repost it so you can digest it fully:



Roy Jones used PEDs, he claimed it was ripped fuel but that claim was not verified. He was caught cheating bang to rights just like Marion Jones, Barry Bonds or any other cheat who made excuses except with boxing it was swept under the carpet.

Now you can continue insulting people in the thread all you want but these are facts and there's no getting away from them.

Lol, I'm not avoiding anything.

What you seem to be avoiding is the fact that Roy never tested positive for anything that wasn't over the counter purchased at the time and that's an honest mistake anybody could make. Now, knowing this info, you should have no problem moving on and having no problem understanding that Roy never tested positive in any other fights before or after. What this means is that he didn't really have any advantage over any other fighter before or after that fight in which the other fighter was cheating for aparently himself. Not even in the Ruiz fight where it appeared that Roy had gained the most muscle mass of his career.

Is this accurate then?

P.S. Stop trying to find a way to diminish Roy's accomplishments in here. This thread is about Joe vs. Wlad. Stay on topic yourself if you want to point fingers.