Is Andre Ward avoiding Anthony Dirrell?

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  • Brother Jay
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    Is Andre Ward avoiding Anthony Dirrell?

    Originally posted by SWEETSCIENCE100
    Anthony Dirrell was the WBC mandotory. Ward gave up his title to avoid him. Real champions dont give up belts to avoid a fighter.
    I completely agree that styles make fights.

    However, there has to be more than just a comparison of styles in order to justify claiming that Anthony Dirrell would KO an undefeated commodity who just won a tournament against all top SMWs.

    I'm not even saying that you're wrong. I am saying that you claim lacks any evidence ... making it pure conjecture.

    Anthony Dirrell just fought his first 12 rounder in his last fight, and his first 10 rounder two fights ago. He's young, green and impressive against D level competition. He's never beaten a world champion. He's never fought a world champion.

    I really think you're jumping the gun here. Just about anyone can look like dynamite against someone who isn't world class on any given night. Dirrell has A LOT to prove before I'll endorse him over Ward. His record is impressive in that he consistently goes for the KO, but he's used to fighting in 4 & 6 round fights. That's quite a factor.

    Here's a better question:

    Do you think Anthony Dirrell wins the Super Six?

    I ask this because Ward faced different styles during that contest. He even went as far to face Bika outside of the tourney. The kid can adapt. I'm not hailing him as a masterboxer or even as elite. He is however, the best at 168 and he's proven it.

    We don't know all of the factors concerning his decision not to face a mandatory. Right now, all we have is your opinion that an unproven commodity in Anthony Dirrell could possibly KO a proven commodity in Andre Ward.

    I ain't buying that at this point. The odds won't reflect it. You could be 100% correct, but there are just too many intangibles that work against Dirrell's chances for anyone to agree with you at the current time.

    This is basically the same thing people tried to pull with Margarito back in '06.

    They said that Margarito was the most avoided man in boxing. They said that he was among the top at WW despite him not having one win to justify that claim. They said that the best were ducking him. They said that once he got his chance nobody would be able to stop him.

    Then he fought Paul Williams and got beaten in '07.

    Suddenly, no one was calling Margarito "avoided". Suddenly no one was ducking him.

    That is .. until he beat Cotto.

    Then, the Top Rank hype machine began that same crap all over again. They said the best were ducking him. They said he was unstoppable. Blah Blah Blah.

    Six months later, he got knocked out by Shane Mosley.

    Moral of the story?

    People say lots of crap. Unless you prove your merit in the ring by beating the best, all the talk in the world amounts to nothing more than the same ole crap.
  • The Big Dunn
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    Andre Ward is in a completely different position right now since he won the super 6. He needs to be smart about his next few fights. Anyone who blames a fighter for making financial decisions for themselves ahead of what a fan or fans may want is being a bit of an *******.

    Ward needs to make sure he sets himself up for the future. If a dirrell fight compromises that, so be it.

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    • Larry the boss
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      he is friends witht he Dirrells and wont ever fight them imo..............remember he was suppose to fight Andre and that fight fell through as well.has 0 to do with fear

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      • COACH WEBB
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        #4
        Not at all.

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        • Evil Abed
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          Nah. He's probably sees a bigger fight out there right now. Like Bradley when he relinquished his title to Alexander.

          Dirrell hasn't done anything yet. If Ward says Bute has to earn a title shot why would he say a guy who's done much less should get it?

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          • Biolink
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            He went through all of that in the Super 6 and some people think he's scared?

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            • BostonGuy
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              What kind of champion vacates the title in order to avoid fighting a credible contender? If the Dirrells are such friends of Andre Ward why doesn't Anthony relinquish his mandatory number 1 slot, so Andre doesn't have to vacate?...

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              • COACH WEBB
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                #8
                Originally posted by Biolink
                He went through all of that in the Super 6 and some people think he's scared?
                It's beyond me.

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                • Blue Heffner
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                  No, he isn't.

                  Andre Ward should be the last guy that we mention as avoiding someone.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BostonGuy
                    What kind of champion vacates the title in order to avoid fighting a credible contender? If the Dirrells are such friends of Andre Ward why doesn't Anthony relinquish his mandatory number 1 slot, so Andre doesn't have to vacate?...
                    Dirrell gets to fight #2 for a title, maybe they fight later in unification bout. I guess.

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