Best Boxer in Boxing History

**JUYJUY** · 11-25-2005, 02:16 PM

"I don't think Ali is the greatest, Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest. I don't even think Ali is the greatest heavyweight, I think that both Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano would of scored late knockouts against Ali while trailing on points."
- Billy 'The Preacher' Graham

I agree with Bill

**TuPrincipe** · 11-25-2005, 02:18 PM

JUYJUY do you belive graham to be a GREAT trainer?

**Parody** · 11-25-2005, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

"I don't think Ali is the greatest, Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest. I don't even think Ali is the greatest heavyweight, I think that both Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano would of scored late knockouts against Ali while trailing on points."
- Billy 'The Preacher' Graham

I agree with Bill

Dude why does your custom title say that you suck eubanks ****?

atleast remove it...im not flaming, just telling u to remove it unless someone else put it..

Anyway do u say muhammad ali is not the greatest heavyweight...ali had better accomplishments than any heavyweight alive

**JUYJUY** · 11-25-2005, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by TuPrincipe

JUYJUY do you belive graham to be a GREAT trainer?

Bill has always been a bloody good trainer IMO, guys with limited ability would go to him and he'd just get the best out of them. He has a good tactical mind, and has guided fighters to British, Commonwealth, European, and world title honours. The guy is strict, he refuses to train anybody who smokes (even though he smokes himself!), refuses to train anybody who won't use weights, and refuses to train anybody who won't question what he's saying. He's always liked to get the bodybag and pads out, and always liked to bring his fighters in for extra sessions to work on tactics even if it meant an ear-bashing from his wife for not being home enough. He used to train more fighters than any other trainer in the country, and he used to do it all on his own! It wasn't a gym full of mediocre fighters, it was a gym full of champions and fighters he had turned into good prospects - it must of been unbelievably hard work. I think it's better now though that Bill has a very small camp, just the Hatton brothers and that nutter Gomez and a couple of others, so that Bill can focus on each fighter more.

**Brockton Lip** · 11-25-2005, 03:03 PM

Ali is number 1. Rocky Marciano might have been able to KO him but 2 out of 3 times I think I'd have to give the win to Ali.

**Gestapo Sportsvereign** · 11-25-2005, 03:05 PM

rocky is king

**Hitman932** · 11-25-2005, 03:14 PM

i find it interesting that rocky marciano and muhammad ali are the two guys beaing mentioned here. not that i disagree at all, i think they are definately the 2 best.

what i find interesting is that the two guys regarded as the best throughout history have probably the most completely opposite styles of winning that there could ever be had.

i say rocky would win this one more often than not cause the guy just never tired out. ali dealt with a lot of relentless fighters but never someone who could bring it so hard for so long.

**TuPrincipe** · 11-25-2005, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

Bill has always been a bloody good trainer IMO, guys with limited ability would go to him and he'd just get the best out of them. He has a good tactical mind, and has guided fighters to British, Commonwealth, European, and world title honours. The guy is strict, he refuses to train anybody who smokes (even though he smokes himself!), refuses to train anybody who won't use weights, and refuses to train anybody who won't question what he's saying. He's always liked to get the bodybag and pads out, and always liked to bring his fighters in for extra sessions to work on tactics even if it meant an ear-bashing from his wife for not being home enough. He used to train more fighters than any other trainer in the country, and he used to do it all on his own! It wasn't a gym full of mediocre fighters, it was a gym full of champions and fighters he had turned into good prospects - it must of been unbelievably hard work. I think it's better now though that Bill has a very small camp, just the Hatton brothers and that nutter Gomez and a couple of others, so that Bill can focus on each fighter more.

Definetly. I believe him to be one of Hatton's unsung hero's.

The fight plans he comes up with for Hatton are extremely good, that is part of the reason why I would favour Hatton to beat Mayweather. Every fighter has a weakness, and Graham has a great boxing mind so He would come up with something that would just be brilliant. Very, very, very good trainer. I can't stress enough How great he really is.

**Hitman932** · 11-25-2005, 03:37 PM

What do billy graham (the tv evangelist) and the detroit lions have in common??

They can both make 80,000 people jump up and scream "Jesus Christ"

Best Boxer in Boxing History