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  • Jedi Vader
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    #31
    Originally posted by 4CornersKid
    You have NO GROUND to stand on with the PED issues, no offense. I use to have a lot of respect for you, but it seems like you are nothing more than a pissed off European fan that discredits the Americans. Get over it, Andre Ward is the best Super Middleweight in the world. He beat all the top SMW handily and convincingly, with ease. He fought Carl Froch, who everyone said was the other best SMW, at a neutral site in Jersey. He out classed him. I can't wait till he does the same to Lucian Bute.

    And in fact, Andre Ward has come out in favor of better drug testing.



    And I dislike PED users as much as anyone, but I'd still be a fan even if one of my favorite fighters was suspected of it. I still ike Roy Jones. But, you are a fan of Vitali clearly, and he was a blatant PED user prior to 2004 and even admitted it, is he a fraud???????
    I totally concur Bro. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Ward whatsoever but purely as a fighter, I cannot fault him. I honestly wanted and thought Froch would soak it up and thwart ward. He didn't because Ward showed us something new that we'd never seen before, his ability to beat someone at their own game. He did it brilliantly too.

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    • MJ223
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      #32
      Simply put......

      Another W

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        #33
        I think it has to be 1 of Kessler, Bute, Froch or maybe bumass Andre Dirrell.

        Obviously Bute is BY FAR the biggest challenge. Bute is much bigger much faster and MUCH more powerful than Ward, Ward has to win on intangibles and toughness
        Last edited by SCtrojansbaby; 03-02-2012, 04:09 PM.

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        • 4Corners
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          #34
          Originally posted by MJ223
          Simply put......

          Another W
          Best commenton the entire thread so far. Props.

          Kessler-Steiglitz is set, Bute-Froch is set. He should fight Andre Dirrell. Dirrell is one of the top 10 ranked SMW, arguably beat Froch in his only loss, and showed he still looks fresh against Cunningham. He arguably beat Froch and beat Abraham. Andre should fight him in May or June, than he has a lot of other options. He can fight Bute if he beats Froch, Kessler-Steiglitz winner, or Anthony Dirrell as well.
          Last edited by 4Corners; 03-02-2012, 04:14 PM.

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          • The Hammer
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            #35
            Originally posted by Jedi Vader
            Is this what you can only ever resort to Tunney?? Red K, Ignore and childish gifts because I disagree with most you say??
            What was really pathetic was when a crybaby called Jedi Vader reported me and got ree****yaluss to ban me for a month, because I gave Jedi Vader red K for one of his many Klitschko hate threads.

            Now I bet you'll get ree****yaluss to ban me for giving you that gift.

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              #36
              Originally posted by 4CornersKid
              Best commenton the entire thread so far. Props.

              Kessler-Steiglitz is set, Bute-Froch is set. He should fight Andre Dirrell. Dirrell is one of the top 10 ranked SMW, arguably beat Froch in his only loss, and showed he still looks fresh against Cunningham. He arguably beat Froch and beat Abraham. Andre should fight him in May or June, than he has a lot of other options. He can fight Bute if he beats Froch, Kessler-Steiglitz winner, or Anthony Dirrell as well.
              While we don't always agree ex Donaire Rigo I respect that u can at least provide a sound reason for ur thinking instead of the usual on these boards..... Respect.....

              With that said though I would rather see Anthony instead of Andre next.... I would prefer Andre Dirrell get some more rounds in first.... + Ant is the mando so I don't have a problem with it at all.....

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                #37
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                What was really pathetic was when a crybaby called Jedi Vader reported me and got ree****yaluss to ban me for a month, because I gave Jedi Vader red K for one of his many Klitschko hate threads.

                Now I bet you'll get ree****yaluss to ban me for giving you that gift.
                I don't think Reed can ban people, can he?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                  He beat all the top SMW handily and convincingly, with ease.
                  With a lot of help from his home referees like shady old Jack Reiss, who let him headbutt and hit while holding as much as he wants.

                  If he's really so good, why did Ward need the assistance of shady referees?

                  Why did he demand ALL his Super Six fights at home?

                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                  He fought Carl Froch, who everyone said was the other best SMW, at a neutral site in Jersey.
                  According to my map, New Jersey is in Ward's home country, the USA.

                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                  I can't wait till he does the same to Lucian Bute.
                  Right now Ward is ducking Bute, he won't even fight Bute in Oakland.

                  Bute isn't a coward like Ward, he's going to Nottingham. If Ward had fought Froch in Nottingham, he'd deserve some respect. But the pampered baby had to have all his Super Six fights in the US.

                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                  And in fact, Andre Ward has come out in favor of better drug testing.
                  Anybody can say that - talk is cheap. Ward's working with Victor Conte reveals how PHONY that talk is.

                  "Son of God" my ass!

                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                  But, you are a fan of Vitali clearly, and he was a blatant PED user prior to 2004 and even admitted it, is he a fraud???????
                  Prior to 2004?

                  In 1996, Vitali was prescribed a steroid by a doctor to help heal a kickboxing injury. He didn't know it was a banned substance.

                  Many drugs contain steroids. I was prescribed the steroid ointment "betaderm" earlier this week for a severe skin rash.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                    I don't think Reed can ban people, can he?
                    Yes, he's one of the 4 senior mods.

                    Some other mods can only ban you from a certain section they moderate, like the MMA section. But the 4 senior mods can ban you from boxingscene.

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                    • 4Corners
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Freedom.
                      With a lot of help from his home referees like shady old Jack Reiss, who let him headbutt and hit while holding as much as he wants.

                      If he's really so good, why did Ward need the assistance of shady referees?

                      Why did he demand ALL his Super Six fights at home?



                      According to my map, New Jersey is in Ward's home country, the USA.


                      Right now Ward is ducking Bute, he won't even fight Bute in Oakland.

                      Bute isn't a coward like Ward, he's going to Nottingham. If Ward had fought Froch in Nottingham, he'd deserve some respect. But the pampered baby had to have all his Super Six fights in the US.


                      Anybody can say that - talk is cheap. Ward's working with Victor Conte reveals how PHONY that talk is.

                      "Son of God" my ass!


                      Prior to 2004?

                      In 1996, Vitali was prescribed a steroid by a doctor to help heal a kickboxing injury. He didn't know it was a banned substance.

                      Many drugs contain steroids. I was prescribed the steroid ointment "betaderm" earlier this week for a severe skin rash.
                      If you are that good at making excuses.....it's hard to be that good at anything else. You sound like the Brit's that were claiming Floyd only knocked Hatton out because of Cortez. What is wrong with Ward saying Bute should fight someone like Froch first???? It's true. If Ward beats Bute RIGHT NOW and does so convincingly, EVERYONE will just say Lucian was overrated. You know that.

                      Keep on with the bashing Americans in every thread, it's funny, can't lie to you about that one. The fact that you said the Ukraine and Philippines produce the best boxers in the world is laughable itself, and makes it hard to take you seriously.

                      But, at the end of the day, we all have differences of opinions. But I'll be sure to know your stance on Andre Ward being a PED user for future references alright???

                      And Ward only beats people because it was fought in the USA. Maybe Andre didn't want to travel to England for Froch, after seeing Dirrell get blatantly robbed a couple years ago.....I don't know. Even two of the scores for Ward-Froch were WAY TOO CLOSE. 115-113.....are you f**king kidding me???

                      Keep on hating on Americans, it doesn't change my perception of the rest of the world, as I know a lot of Europeans love this country. There's a reason a vast majority of the world wants to move here and not the Ukraine or some s**t. But, still, you are just one random guy on a boxing site that can't seem to give hardly any Americans their just due in the ring. I know plenty of European people and Europeans boxing fans that are far less bias against the US than you.

                      Have a good day.....
                      Last edited by 4Corners; 03-02-2012, 05:09 PM.

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