Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Mayweather Thinks Cotto is Easy, He is Not!

[PAC-BOY]

I love their whole 'preserve his 0' argument too. People HATE the fact that he's undefeated

Sugar Ray Robinson wasnt undefeated Ali wasnt..Norton wasnt ....SRL wasnt ...Joe Louis wasnt...
A 0 doeasnt make a fighter great. Any one with a brain a knowledge of the sport knows this.
JCCjr is undefeated...Calzaghe was Undefeated...Mayweather is and what...thats special? LOL Why didnt he get fighter of the decade? Hes only got fighter of the year once ...Manny ..lol 3 times! hehheeee

[WESS]

yea i think cotto's dangerous too, but do u really think a pound makes a difference? cotto's previous fight before pac he weight 146, next fight he weight 145, come on man someone doesn't get drained from one fuggin pound ppl, it's not like he was sayin, "alright cotto, we do it at 142!" but its still bs that team pac was makin demands

Who said anything about being drained? All I stated was the perfectly clear fact that team Pac will not fight Cotto without a catchweight.

Regardless of their reasoning... The fact is, they demanded a catchweight because they acknowledged the fact that they think the fight was unfair and that Cotto must come in at a lower weight which is fine as Cotto "agreed". This still does not change the fact they demanded Cotto to come in at a catchweight then and now because like they are saying now, Cotto is dangerous and they need an advantage in order to beat him.

Mayweather like a true champion, is not demanding such a catchweight for Cotto. Pac, being the good man that he is, is warning Mayweather by saying you should demand a catchweght like I did because Cotto is a good fighter and you will need an advantage too in order to beat him... Pac is such a great guy...

[SirChaelSonnen]

Actually every single fighter that has fought both Pac and Mayweather say Mayweather is a better boxer.

Feel free to try again though, since you only have a few hours left on this board.

Did i say everyone says Mannys the better boxer?? Read it again b.
Floyds the better boxer, counter puncher, defensive boxer and tactician all day, the world knows this. But Pacquiao has the hand speed with sick accuracy (normally) and the harder punches. Just take a look at Tony's face, Cotto face after the fights. I'm sure Mosley said he has never felt pain like it before after the Pac fight aswell. I Know Hatton said dat... Hatton also says Floyd would beat Pacquiao aswell though

[b Murphington]

and how much did he weight next fight after Pacquiao?

yea but how does that even matter, thats AFTER he fought pac, that only matters if there was proof he was having trouble making 147 which i admittedly have no idea if that was the case or not

[WESS]

Sugar Ray Robinson wasnt undefeated Ali wasnt..Norton wasnt ....SRL wasnt ...Joe Louis wasnt...
A 0 doeasnt make a fighter great. Any one with a brain a knowledge of the sport knows this.
JCCjr is undefeated...Calzaghe was Undefeated...Mayweather is and what...thats special? LOL Why didnt he get fighter of the decade? Hes only got fighter of the year once ...Manny ..lol 3 times! hehheeee

and by the time an ATG like Mayweather retires he won't be either. He will lose one day.

Like Hopkins, his style will keep him going and winning until he is old and just can't out point young fighters anymore.

and careful about talking about Calzaghe, before *******s where around, we had the Calzaghe fan boys. They where nearly as bad as the *******s.

[SirChaelSonnen]

Who said anything about being drained? All I stated was the perfectly clear fact that team Pac will not fight Cotto without a catchweight.

Regardless of their reasoning... The fact is, they demanded a catchweight because they acknowledged the fact that they think the fight was unfair and that Cotto must come in at a lower weight which is fine as Cotto "agreed". This still does not change the fact they demanded Cotto to come in at a catchweight then and now because like they are saying now, Cotto is dangerous and they need an advantage in order to beat him.

Mayweather like a true champion, is not demanding such a catchweight for Cotto. Pac, being the good man that he is, is warning Mayweather by saying you should demand a catchweght like I did because Cotto is a good fighter and you will need an advantage too in order to beat him... Pac is such a great guy...

Funny comment bruv.
Only True Champs i know are the old boys like Whitaker, Leonard, Duran, Robinson, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, Louis, Dempsey, Marciano, Graziano, LaMotta, De La Hoya, Hearns, Mosley, Froch, Hagler.....

[Phenom]

yea but how does that even matter, thats AFTER he fought pac, that only matters if there was proof he was having trouble making 147 which i admittedly have no idea if that was the case or not

would you take the way he looked against Clottey as proof? maybe coming in at 146 was ****** idea and that's why he fought against the 145 catchweight THEN and refused to fight at 147 NOW

[LeadUppercut]

Sugar Ray Robinson wasnt undefeated Ali wasnt..Norton wasnt ....SRL wasnt ...Joe Louis wasnt...
A 0 doeasnt make a fighter great. Any one with a brain a knowledge of the sport knows this.
JCCjr is undefeated...Calzaghe was Undefeated...Mayweather is and what...thats special? LOL Why didnt he get fighter of the decade? Hes only got fighter of the year once ...Manny ..lol 3 times! hehheeee

PAC-CLOWN.....

Why was Pussiao too scared to fight Cotto at 154 ?

And, why was he too scared to fight Cotto at 150 ?

Instead, Pussiao decided to fight a JWW..... at 147.

[b Murphington]

would you take the way he looked against Clottey as proof? maybe coming in at 146 was ****** idea and that's why he fought against the 145 catchweight THEN and refused to fight at 147 NOW

i would take the way he looked against clottey as a psychological effect from the margarito beating he took a couple fights before, i bet he was having self-confidence issues at that point...and well yea like i said before, losing 5 or 6 pounds is different than 1...i was talking about ppl making a big deal out of the catchweight for pac- cotto when i dont believe it was, NOW pac askin cotto for a 5 or 6 pound drop, THATS a big deal

[LeadUppercut]

Pacquiao Admits Catch-Weight Is Crucial To Outcome With Cotto

i would take the way he looked against clottey as a psychological effect from the margarito beating he took a couple fights before, i bet he was having self-confidence issues at that point...and well yea like i said before, losing 5 or 6 pounds is different than 1...i was talking about ppl making a big deal out of the catchweight for pac- cotto when i dont believe it was, NOW pac askin cotto for a 5 or 6 pound drop, THATS a big deal

Smarten up.

And perhaps at least do some research, if you clearly have no idea what you are talking about......

This past Sunday on GMANews.TV, Manny Pacquiao said he knows exactly what Miguel Cotto is going through trying to get down to weight the week before the fight. Pacquiao went as far as to say that having been in a similar situation himself, the weight reduction is going to play a crucial role in the outcome of the fight.

Manny stated that along with trying to sweat off the weight, Cotto will be reducing his caloric intake to make the 145 catch-weight limit stipulated in the fight contract. And he knows that effort will be very demanding on Miguel.

Outside of having your relatives referee and score your fight, there's no more sure way to compromise a fighter and help alter the outcome of it than beating him on the scale. Bringing a fighter down in weight if it's a struggle affects everything he does in the ring in a bad way.

Pacquiao's failure to make weight resulted in him losing his WBC flyweight title to Medgoen Singsurat when he was knocked out in the third round 10 years ago. He also had a difficult time making the 130-pound limit for his rematch with Juan Manuel Marquez in March of 2008, a fight in which some observers believe the split decision verdict in his favor could have just as easily gone to Marquez.

A little over a week out from the fight Pacquiao says he weighs between 148 and 149. So much for him being the smaller fighter next to Cotto.

The catch-weight of 145 for Pacquiao-Cotto has been a topic of fierce debate since the bout was signed. One side of the argument is that Cotto is too big and should meet Pacquiao somewhere below the welterweight limit of 147 to make it more fair. The opposing side asks why Cotto has to put his WBO welterweight title on the line and not be allowed to weigh the maximum the division allows.

To those who believe Cotto isn't at a slight disadvantage coming in at 145 Manny Pacquiao says you're wrong. And if making 145 isn't a big deal for Cotto why has he never fought below 146 since moving up to welterweight?

A sure sign of a fighter who struggles getting down to weight is the one who usually weighs in right at the division limit or a half to a full pound below it. Jake LaMotta barely made middleweight before and during his reign as middleweight champ. I trained with former light heavyweight champ Dwight Muhammad Qawi - and making 175 was always a struggle for him, evidenced by him always coming in right at the light heavyweight limit or a half a pound under it once he won and defended the title.

Then there's the other side where fighters like Marvin Hagler often made the middleweight limit by 2/3 pounds. And the same applied to Michael Spinks making the light heavyweight limit of 175. Both Hagler and Spinks breezed to make weight and always came in under the division limit.

Miguel Cotto has been weighing in between 146 and 147 since he outgrew the junior welterweight division. That's a testament indicating making the 147 pound limit isn't easy for him and it requires a lot just for him to do that.

Making 145 isn't the issue concerning Cotto; there's no doubt he'll be able to do that. And it wouldn't be a shock, at least not here, if he in fact came in at 144 being that's he's probably been consumed with how much he weighs during his preparation for the fight. The question is will he be his best and the same fighter who fought Mosley, Margarito and Clottey? And no one knows the answer to that.

One thing we do know is Cotto won't be better at 145 or 144.5 for Pacquiao than he was at 146 for the three previous mentioned fights. These two fighters are almost the same size and it wouldn't be the least bit surprising if when they get into the ring Saturday night that Pacquiao looks like the bigger fighter.

Anyone who has ever been around a fighter who's trying to cut weight knows it's not a pretty sight. There's only so much spit, waste and sweat in their body. And there's a good chance that that will compromise Cotto. Which doesn't mean Pacquiao wouldn't have won the fight even if Cotto came in at 146/147, if he does.

However, those two pounds that Cotto has to lose will affect him more than the 147 he could've carried would've harmed Pacquiao. If losing unnatural weight hurt Pacquiao against Singsurat and Marquez, then it's a fair point Cotto may be hurt trying to cut the extra pound to fight him.

Of course it'll be argued that Pacquiao had to cut weight because he was still growing, and that's a legit point. But on the other hand, Cotto has already flowered and is very vulnerable to being a little depleted at 145 at this stage of his career.

Does the catch-weight clause of 145 mean Pacquiao shouldn't receive all due props if he wins? No. Pacquiao supporters will argue it made no difference and he's just the greater fighter. Whereas Cotto's fans will be emphatic that the catch-weight was the main reason Miguel lost if he does. Either way it'll be overstated.

But it's an undeniable truth that Pacquiao will not be confronting the same fighter in Cotto that fought Mosley and Margarito.