Floyd Mayweather- Destined for mediocrity?

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  • BadMagick
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    #11
    Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
    Woever wrote this knows little about Roy Jones. Who really knows what Roy was content to do? Certainly, top dogs like Dariusz M. were not willing to come to the U.S. to fight him. Benn, Eubank, and Gman were all defunct in RJJ's glory years. Saying RJJ was content to fight cops etc (same old BS we've heard a million times) makes it sound like that's what his resume consists of mainly, which is misleading and laughable.
    The fact of the matter is that Roy Jones fought a ton of nobodies. Yes, he fought a lot of good fighters, but his fight resume has more nobodies than real fighters. He beat Toney, Hopkins, Griffin, Woods, Ruiz, and Tarver. He also beat McCallum who was well past his prime, and Reggie Johnson, who was, much the same, past his prime. I didn't say anything about Benn, Eubank, or the Gman. Why should Dariusz have to come here, when he was the champ? Sure, he could have, but that's Roy's job to go there, not the other way around. Roy has to want the fight, not Dariusz, he's proven he's the champ already. That's why Roy was the challenger.

    Why didn't he give Toney a rematch? Why didn't he fight Nunn? Why didn't he fight, etc, etc, etc. There are a lot of questions about Roy's career, which is what I was pointing out. Now, if you aren't going to talk about the topic at hand, please leave this thread.

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    • RiverCityMike
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      #12
      Originally posted by machotime
      I'll tell you what. Mayweather has great potential to be one of the best fighters. But If he does not humble himself he will not become a legend. I read somewhere that he said "I don't need Zab, he needs me". Then I heard that he wants 3/4 of the purse.
      Someone in these forums told me about how Warren/Hatton flat refused Floyd ... maybe now one could understand why. Hatton stands a really good chance vs prettyboy. People forget that you slug with a boxer and box with a puncher. Styles make fights and I see Hatton's style as major problems for Mayweather. I picture it something like Jones vs Johnson except that Hatton is a much more vicious puncher (especially to the body) p4p than Johnson.

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      • BadMagick
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        #13
        Originally posted by RiverCityMike
        Someone in these forums told me about how Warren/Hatton flat refused Floyd ... maybe now one could understand why. Hatton stands a really good chance vs prettyboy. People forget that you slug with a boxer and box with a puncher. Styles make fights and I see Hatton's style as major problems for Mayweather. I picture it something like Jones vs Johnson except that Hatton is a much more vicious puncher (especially to the body) p4p than Johnson.
        At the same time, Floyd can, and probably will cause a lot of problems for Hatton. I just want him to get off his high-horse and start fighting guys with a pulse, so we don't have to hear about how he didn't fight so and so, and he could have done this and that. I don't want to see him having so many unanswered questions like Roy has.

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        • Super_Lightweight
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          #14
          hmm

          The fact of the matter is that Roy Jones fought a ton of nobodies. Yes, he fought a lot of good fighters, but his fight resume has more nobodies than real fighters. He beat Toney, Hopkins, Griffin, Woods, Ruiz, and Tarver. He also beat McCallum who was well past his prime, and Reggie Johnson, who was, much the same, past his prime. I didn't say anything about Benn, Eubank, or the Gman. Why should Dariusz have to come here, when he was the champ?
          Sugar Ray Robinson and Julio Cesar Chavez also fought a ton of nobodies. The amount of "nobodies" doesnt come cose to trumping the somebodies on that record.

          Johnson wasn't far past his prime. Still was a very good boxer at that point. Dariusz wasn't the champ. Roy was seen as the champ, regardless of what linear claims DM might have had. When ppl look at this era, they ain't gonna say Dariusz was champ. Either way, no one should have to go to Germany to fight that farce. No disrespect, but if you spend your whole career in Germany, you are a farce.

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          • Super_Lightweight
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            #15
            hmm

            Now, if you aren't going to talk about the topic at hand, please leave this thread.
            Don't get pissy acting like a sissy girl. I addressed something you stated. Calm yourself.

            Floyd may be destined for mediocrity. Who knows? I am split on what I think he might do. I hope he will come to his senses and fight Judah or Hatton, or even Castillo again.

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            • STEELHEAD
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              #16
              Originally posted by BadMagick

              Since defeating Jose Luis Castillo in 2002, three years ago, he has fought no-names, shot fighters, and one neverwas in Aturo Gatti. His title fight at Jr. Welterweight against, perhaps, the easiest opponent of the bunch was his last. He did not try to make fights with Ricky Hatton, or Miguel Cotto, and if he did, he priced himself way out of them. Why? Is there really more money in fighting Zab Judah than Ricky Hatton? Hatton seems to be the fight most wanted by fans of Mayweather-- and Hatton, for that matter.

              So why has he run off? Why, instead of taking a good fight in even Miguel Cotto did he take a fight with a shot Sharmba Mitchell? He claims he wants to be great, but where is the effort to do so? Being an Olympic gold medalist who has three name fighters on his undefeated resume means little in the world of greatness. Fighting the Phillip N'Dou's and Henry Bruseles of the boxing world does not make you a great fighter, it makes you someone scared to take a real challenge, especially when there are several waiting for you.

              What is the obstacle facing Mayweather and greatness, though? In short, his ego. He has this delusional idea that he is somehow an in demand fighter because of his mega-fight (purely in terms of money), and now he prices himself out of other big fights, demanding a 60-40 split as if he's the one people want to see. He's not the draw in the fight, so where does he get off demanding more money? His ego is far too large for himself, and his greatness.

              Will Mayweather ever start to fight big fights, or will he continue on with his streak of mediocrity? Only time will really tell, but maybe soon we'll all see what Mayweather is really capable of in the ring against an opponent with a real pulse.
              its to early for cotto to fight floyd.he's a couple fights away.

              floyds doing fine business wise but is finally pissing off his fans.this "i'll give zab one week to sign" **** bugs me.

              i'd rather see floyd fight zab first.
              i would think theres more money fighting hatton. over in england.

              hbo gave him the swelled head.and theyre paying for it.

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              • BLOODSHED
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                #17
                Superlightweight. All that hatin aint good for ya system.

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                • jack_the_rippuh
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                  #18
                  I hope Mayweather fights the best. Not only do I want to see how he would fair against them, but I also want to see him go down as one of the greatest. I never saw a style I enjoy watching more, probably for the exception of Sugar Ray.

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                  • GasPed
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                    #19
                    Yes, Floyd is destined for mediocrity... ...when he turns 40 or so.

                    Seriously, he has all-time great talent, but his legacy will be measured by who he fights and beats. He's got a long ways to go in that regard...

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                    • jack_the_rippuh
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                      #20
                      I don't see why he can't surpass De La Hoya and Jones in terms of legacy.

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