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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #101
    Originally posted by LoStranger
    LOL I list some of my fav Black fighters who I feel proud of and every1 always looks to shoot it down what is it about blacks expressing racial pride that makes guys short fuse?

    Whats wrong with a black person supporting a black fighter don't you support Miguel Cotto bcuz he's Rican? don't Mexicans support Mexicans don't Filipinos support Filipinos?
    Personally, I don't necessarily have a problem with an African-American being proud of other African-Americans. But the difference is that Mexican, Filipino, German, Cuban, etc. are nationalities, not races. Puerto Rico is technically not a country, but we always refer to it as such. There are black Puerto Ricans, white Puerto Ricans and everything in between. The same with the Cubans and Dominicans. There are, of course, some countries that are known for a highly predominant race, with the nationality being almost synonymous with such, like the Philippines.

    I guess we could get into it (although I'm certainly not inclined to at the moment...lol), but for certain reasons, in some societies, it makes people uncomfortable to see you side with race, as opposed to geographic region. In our society, for instance, it's perfectly acceptable for you to root for your hometown, state, country, school, etc., but not race.

    Let me ask you a question. If there were a boxing fan here that rooted only for white fighters (and there are indeed a few...lol), would you say, "That's okay, he's just proud of his race's accomplishments." Or would you tend to think he's a racist. Be honest now.... lol

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    • urrah
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      #102
      Originally posted by PRking718
      MOSLEY AND CLOTTEY LOST for starts.

      LOL *** UP HOE, CHEATO USED PLASTER AND PACMAN USED A CATCH WEIGHT WITH COTTO HAVING NO TRAINER AND NO PASSION FOR THE SPORT. THERE'S A REASON WHY A REAL BOXING GUY LIKE M. STEWARD SAYS THIS COTTO WOULD PROBABLY BEAT PACMAN.

      Mamabicho I would bet you but u have no points. You know Cotto was being rehabilitated and made Foremans leg give out bc of lateral movement (haha, excueses!!! - Cotto was supposed to be outclassed!) Mayorga is bigger than him and a puncher who makes everyone look bad and a prep for Cheato. Cheato was needed and revenge was SWEEET! You ***** my man, Clottey busted Cotto with ONE EYE. 6 rounds each plus the knockdown makes it a win for Cotto! HAHA. Cheato is a tuff *** either way, Floyd was scared of his ass. My man took him out and now his confidence is back.
      Wow, it's an authentic Cottard. I didn't realise there were any left, you guys are an endangered species.

      In all honesty I like Cotto, one of if not the best Puerta Rican fighters of all time, but he isn't and never was in Mayweather's league. And you cannot praise Cotto's resume while criticising Mayweather's. Both have fought at the highest level of competition, but Floyd's been fighting the best since his 3rd year as a pro and Cotto hasn't fought as many elite fighters.

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      • hbonnie21
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        #103
        Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop
        Cotto is going to get walked down.
        that and this isnt going to be a back in forth slugfest, cotto is going to have think in there with all that damn feinting floyd does. we see it all the time fighters get tired in the late rounds when fighting floyd because ur so tight from all the feints.

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        • LeG00N
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          #104
          Originally posted by PRking718
          MOSLEY AND CLOTTEY LOST for starts.

          LOL *** UP HOE, CHEATO USED PLASTER AND PACMAN USED A CATCH WEIGHT WITH COTTO HAVING NO TRAINER AND NO PASSION FOR THE SPORT. THERE'S A REASON WHY A REAL BOXING GUY LIKE M. STEWARD SAYS THIS COTTO WOULD PROBABLY BEAT PACMAN.

          Mamabicho I would bet you but u have no points. You know Cotto was being rehabilitated and made Foremans leg give out bc of lateral movement (haha, excueses!!! - Cotto was supposed to be outclassed!) Mayorga is bigger than him and a puncher who makes everyone look bad and a prep for Cheato. Cheato was needed and revenge was SWEEET! You ***** my man, Clottey busted Cotto with ONE EYE. 6 rounds each plus the knockdown makes it a win for Cotto! HAHA. Cheato is a tuff *** either way, Floyd was scared of his ass. My man took him out and now his confidence is back.
          Originally posted by PRking718
          STOP COTTO? DUDE I AM WILLING TO BET MY ACCOUNT THAT DON'T HAPPEN, ARE YOU? SERIOUSLY. SAME WAY HE STOPPED MARQUEZ? AND MOSLEY? OH, YOU MUST MEAN THE SUCKA PUNCH. RIIIIIGHT.

          I don't listen to idiots rant on youtube videos, nuff of that **** on here obviously. You guys are OD not giving Cotto respect. If Floyd doesn't knock him out I'm siggin your **** all day - he's going to win via potshots if he does. Not hard to put someone on the backfoot for a while, fights go back and forth. Looking at your sig, I can tell you swear blacks are better than everyone at everything. You guys really are not. Those heavyweights you have down there would not have been winning so much fights had the Soviet Union not been communists. The Klitchko's are proof of that, whippin all types of black ass. That's why boxing aint the same, heavyweights (the crown ***el of the sport), are NOT AMERICAN anymore. And no racism here, just callin it how I see it -- Sugar Ray Leonard, a real black fighter who was not afraid of anyone, is one of the best of all time. You're just another black dude who likes Floyd bc he's black. Had he been Rican it would be different. You would recognize his bull****. You fans are harder on Cotto than Floyd is bc you guys are biased. Floyd has no power and don't punch enough. Diaz already trying to figure out what type of gameplan beats that. What's the problem? Diaz never called him normal like we use the word, he meant a person like all of us, with weaknesses. But now Diaz is underestimating him, please. Floyd ain't perfect. He already lost to Castillo 1 and fought to a draw with DLH. But he's dominant bc he's black. How about DLH in his prime? Would have whipped that boy.
          Originally posted by PRking718
          LOOK AT THIS CORNBALL NIGA HERE.

          Did you also know Chavez Jr. holds the compubox record for most body punches landed in one fight? And he's such a great fighter right? Did you know Chavez Jr. is also undefeated, many have tried and many have failed, even while studying his tapes. But is he great? NOPE. He's beatable too. You nigas let these lil things fool you - "Oh, he's undefeated!." So? Your boy cherry picked his way to that record and was helped by judging. And if Cotto is so wack than you agree that he is still continuing his cherry-picking ways? LMAOOOO, Cotto is used to taking O's away. He's fought and beat like 7 undefeated fighters to Floyd's two. But you got it black man, you're so dominant that I can't possibly win an argument so, PEACE!

          .............

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          • PrettyBoy22
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            #105
            Ortiz says even now he doesn't see anything special in Mayweather. LOL.

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            • ny123
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              #106
              Judging from the fact Cotto and Diaz are already preparing for Floyd they aren't underestimating him at all. They just aren't going into the fight thinking that Floyd is a superhuman and that losing is inevitable.

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              • THE REED
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                #107
                "we already saw a few videos of him"



                How ignorant does this guy sound

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                • RubenSonny
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by frosty-g
                  i wouldn't myself say floyd is a "normal" fighter as such, but i believe i know what díaz means, given the context of him being a cuban coach.
                  the cubans have a very developed understanding of the term "talent"

                  when talking about natural talents, the only standouts that mayweather has are his speed and reactions, the rest is stuff that have been learned and trained, and that applies to a large extent to the two things i just mentioned. his work ethic does set him apart though-

                  ie. he is not naturally a devastating puncher, he doesn't have a chin like vitali, he doesn't have a "special" trademark punch that sets him apart, etc etc.

                  he is kind of a normal guy who has been crafted into something extraordinary. you look at gamboa, he has ******ly fast hands that whip up into a "ciclón" of shots, that is not "normal".

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                  • F l i c k e r
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                    In every sport, the arm-chair guys (us) try to dissect an athlete's (or team's) weaknesses and how they can be exploited. It's all very interesting and it's partly what makes it fun to be a fan. However, the chances that we're seeing something the pros aren't is slim to none. I'm not only certain Mayweather's opponents try to take advantage of his openings, but that Floyd knows it.

                    You make a good point. JMM is an awesome counter-puncher, yet even he couldn't effectively take advantage of Mayweather's openings when executing the "pull-counter." (As illustrated in your GIF.) It's a common problem in sports: identifying a weakness is one thing; taking advantage of it is another. Rarified boxers are able to employ risky, unorthodox or predictable techniques over and over in their fights because they're so gifted. Floyd happens to be of that uncommon breed.
                    It would be interesting if a person attempted a jab to the body when Floyd sets up for the pull counter. Most people go for his face but what would he do if someone put a dagger in his belly instead? Now that would be interesting to see.

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                    • CubanGuyNYC
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                      It would be interesting if a person attempted a jab to the body when Floyd sets up for the pull counter. Most people go for his face but what would he do if someone put a dagger in his belly instead? Now that would be interesting to see.
                      Just had visions of Martin Scorsese in the back of De Niro's cab in "Taxi Driver" while reading this.... lol

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