The perfect storm: The reason why Manny Pacquiao will lose.

[DARKSEID]

Would be a risky gamble if that's true.

Since Pac is gonna tap that ass.

I do agree however that aside from Floyd and Marquez, Bradley is Pac's toughest challenge.

the safer fight would have been berto or ortiz.

[JOM'S]

Pacman is done & Bradley will easily outpoint him & be robbed on the cards. If it's a conspiracy fine. However Pacman cannot adapt & will be beaten soundly.

i beg to disagree, easily outpointed, when was pacman ever an easy opponent?? torreocampo okey but get real ....

[Dedication]

Thread starter is on to something!

[Dudley]

I really dont see Bradley winning this fight. He can fight off the back foot but he doesnt really have the counter punchers mantra that seems to give manny fits. He will mostly likely avoid being koed but I dont see him winning unless he decides to fight a little dirty.

Are Timothy Bradley's Headbutts Accidental Or Intentional?

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[ИATAS]

this theory is dumb because for one, you would have to assume arum is trying to cash pac out which is silly to think and two, in order to truly cash him out by ******** (you're talking well over a hundred million dollars) he and/or his "friends" would have to bet massive amounts of money, which would certainly be highly alarming and raise su****ions if all these people suddenly made tens of millions of dollars from this fight and if any of these people can be linked to arum the scam would be up.

It would be idiotic to do such a thing and it simply doesn't make any sense.

On top of all that, there is no reason to think bradley can beat pacquiao. He doesn't have the power to do so and he's not going to win 7 out of 12 rounds.

[elfag]

I recently started talking to one of my friends who gambles allot and he was talking boxing and he's an older guy in his 50's who was around the circuit back in the day making big bets on big fights. He still keeps pretty current but doesn't bet anymore. And he touched upon odds and the general public, not us guys who are in the know.

And he said it's perfect math why some fights like this Pacquiao vs Bradley is going down. "Arum owns the rights to Manny's first loss. He also said, in boxing styles make fights (tell me something I don't know) and you see what a fighter can deal with well threw his career. A fighter who has a match turn into a brawl, or a fighter who get's cut, what does he do? Now as a promoter you always make sure you know what your fighter can and cannot do well." But he said boxing ultimately comes down to business when your a promoter. Keep it all in house is a good business. "Arum is smart" But the best way to make the most amount of money is when, and this is what shook me, "You have a superstar out of nowhere get beat by a nobody. You have a fighter you build up once they reach a certain place everyone expects him to not lose, and when everyone is comfortable with that notion, that's when you cash 'em out. You pick a nobody fighter who beats your superstar, and you bet LARGE on the nobody. You see nobody will see it coming, because he's a guaranteed bet in the eye's of the public. That is the best way to make money because the odds are so stacked like 10-1, you make a killing!

IMO Arum is Cashing out Pacquiao and using Bradly's relatively anonymous nature to do it.

If i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but if i'm right, well then what we have here is Arum who is a straight up dirty promoter IMO. It's like a guy who knows which stock will fall and rise and trading when you know it's on it's way out to maximize your profit. He can Pac and if the fight with Mayweather ever happens Pac will be viewed as broken and noone will be interested, and everyone loses except Arum.

That's Why we all find it really confusing why Arum would put Bradley in with Pac. Pac is done, that's why he has always been focusing all his energy on things outside of boxing and using boxing as a vehicle.

Thoughts ? Am I full of ****? Do i have a valid point? Will this thread be deleted? Do I sound like an a.ss?

You really think Arum is going to place a large bet on the fight unnoticed? Is he even allowed to place a bet on a fight he is promoting? That is ******ed. He doesnt make money that way, he makes money off the PPV sales. Ideally when Pac looses, he looses to someone young and marketable that they can also milk for a long time. But that has nothing to do with the betting odds of the fight.

[elfag]

this theory is dumb because for one, you would have to assume arum is trying to cash pac out which is silly to think and two, in order to truly cash him out by ******** (you're talking well over a hundred million dollars) he and/or his "friends" would have to bet massive amounts of money, which would certainly be highly alarming and raise su****ions if all these people suddenly made tens of millions of dollars from this fight and if any of these people can be linked to arum the scam would be up.

It would be idiotic to do such a thing and it simply doesn't make any sense.

On top of all that, there is no reason to think bradley can beat pacquiao. He doesn't have the power to do so and he's not going to win 7 out of 12 rounds.

He thinks Arums friends will go into the casinos and drop millions and nobody would blink an eye. The casinos are there to make money too, if they see something unusual, they will decline to take the bet.

[pac2]

I think you're right i think Arum wants bradley to win. Why do you think Arum was trying to get Ariza fired. I believe it's because Arum wants Pacquiao to fight clean and you saw how he looked vs Marquez, if he fights clean or without all that stuff Arum gives him then Arum believes bradley would probably win bradley will be a challenge regardless but if Pac is fighting clean Bradley probably wins. I think Arum really wants to cash Pac out. You can bet at all those casino's somebody bet 150,000 at one have one of your fmoney friends go to another bet 200,000 have another friend go to another etc, but we will have to wait and see what happens but i honestly believe Arum wants to cash Pac out!!!!!!!!!

[WESS]

Bob will cash out when he allows Pac to fight Mayweather, aka Pac's last fight.

[Shogunofharlem1]

Are Timothy Bradley's Headbutts Accidental Or Intentional?

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I think his headbutts are like Holyfields. Not necessarily intentional but its pretty obvious they would come as a result of the way he fights.