If Ishida stops Pwill in less than 3?

[THE REED]

We can discuss that later because this fight will happen 1st on Saturday.

In that case, I would certainly put him in the discussion.

Kirkland and Williams would be two impressive wins.

[Spray_resistant]

True but a lotta observers will say Kirkland was outta shape for that fight and not himself...(not that that's Ishida's fault)

And who's that in ur avatar?

Its not like he had a broken arm in the fight but rather just a liable style.

That is Abella Anderson BTW.

[P4P_No1]

He's got a massive claim if he does but it's highly unlikely.

[THE REED]

I'm real iffy on Pwill right now.

Being KTFO, and the getting a sustained beating to the head for 12 rounds can definitely alter someones ability a bit.

I'm very curious to see how he looks.

[Spray_resistant]

I'm real iffy on Pwill right now.

Being KTFO, and the getting a sustained beating to the head for 12 rounds can definitely alter someones ability a bit.

I'm very curious to see how he looks.

I am still favoring him to batter Ishida but who knows maybe Ishida finally learned some things and is able to put it all together now.

[project xxx1]

Can we go ahead and call him the man at 154?

I mean who now that is a relevant world class fighter that competes at JMW has better wins than Kirkland tko1 and Pwill tko 1-3 over 154lb fighters?

beat Martinez and you da man at 154.........

[BostonGuy]

Why is the number 3 important to the TS? I'd be impressed if Ishida stopped Williams in any round 1 - 10; I wouldn't call him "the man @ 154" though. I'd say he's a major contender...

[Spray_resistant]

Why is the number 3 important to the TS? I'd be impressed if Ishida stopped Williams in any round 1 - 10; I wouldn't call him "the man @ 154" though. I'd say he's a major contender...

I am just trying to make it sound to be the most impressive of wins because he stopped Mandingo early, would you rate him over Canelo if it happened?

[vacon04]

Why because he got stopped by the MW champion and was outboxed by a very good boxer in the style he is known to have trouble with?

He might not be shot, but if he fights like he did against Martinez and Lara then Ishida has the blueprint to beat him. Williams tends to get his hands real low and from what I've heard from him he's unwilling to change anything.

[F l i c k e r]

Yes.

Because he'd have the best wins at 154.