Nothing against Garcia....but does Ortiz NEED to go to Roach to reach the next level?

[extracurRICular]

Yes because Roach didn't let Penalosa continue getting unnecessarily pummeled by Juanma and Garcia let Margarito get unnecessarily pummeled by Pacquiao. That tells you everything you need to know about the quality of their minds.

LOL, you suck kid! the quality of their minds? what the hell does that even mean haha. thats not even the same garcia that trains ortiz.

hahahah are you really suggesting that this kat



and this kat



share a brain??????????? hahahahha

ahhaha just bustin your balls dawgy.....I think I know what you meant to say....but it's still pretty funny!!! hahahha

[extracurRICular]

Why do so many people have an obsession with Roach? Beejeesus!

Who is better than him right now then??? school me please..........

[boxaholic]

Garcia is doing a good job with Ortiz at 147. At 140 Vic looked tired. Ortiz's problem has always been his mental toughness and finishing his opponents.

Diaz would help but Garcia is a good spot for him.

[extracurRICular]

Im still waiting on someone to tell me 1. how exactly is Roach overrated 2. who is better than him in the game now 3. How so?