Boxing people: I dont think that he is BUT...
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You forgot Martinez, he is a copycat of Jones Jr, minus the elusiveness. Martinez gets hit quite often, and gets marked up too. Roy would fight like that, but not get hit. Roy's style can not be duplicated. You can try it all you want, but you won't do it like him. Not even Roy himself can duplicate his own prime style anymore.
I think the versions of Toney and Hopkins Roy dominated and outboxed, showed me he woulda have no prob with Forrest.Comment
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While we're here, I just wanna point out that I like how people call Hopkins green in the first fight, but Hopkins had a nice little winning streak going of almost 20 fights before losing to Roy, and then after losing to Roy he coincidentally kept winning, only for over a decade. Meaning if Hopkins had never faced the monster that was Roy Jones Jr, Hopkins would have had a winning streak of 15 years, from 1990 to 2005, and people woulda been say "Oh, Hopkins would have beaten Roy in the mid 90s if they had fought".Comment
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Agree it is a poor excuse and they were at the same prospect/contender levels in their careers when they fought, Roy h2h is just better and more talented.While we're here, I just wanna point out that I like how people call Hopkins green in the first fight, but Hopkins had a nice little winning streak going of almost 20 fights before losing to Roy, and then after losing to Roy he coincidentally kept winning, only for over a decade. Meaning if Hopkins had never faced the monster that was Roy Jones Jr, Hopkins would have had a winning streak of 15 years, from 1990 to 2005, and people woulda been say "Oh, Hopkins would have beaten Roy in the mid 90s if they had fought".Comment
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60% of the time, I point this out... every time.While we're here, I just wanna point out that I like how people call Hopkins green in the first fight, but Hopkins had a nice little winning streak going of almost 20 fights before losing to Roy, and then after losing to Roy he coincidentally kept winning, only for over a decade. Meaning if Hopkins had never faced the monster that was Roy Jones Jr, Hopkins would have had a winning streak of 15 years, from 1990 to 2005, and people woulda been say "Oh, Hopkins would have beaten Roy in the mid 90s if they had fought".Comment
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Jones with 8 fights, was very similar to Rigondeaux, experience-wise. He had 8 fights but can beat the hell out of any veteran or prime fighter. He was head and shoulders above everyone else even as an "untested" version of him.
Lol, I kind of exaggerate with prime Roy, but most of what I say would probably end up being true if it had happened.

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Though most people point to Roys decorated amateur experience compared to Nards, as Roy not being quite as green as Nard.
And it's a fair game argument.
Obviously Bernard did in fact improve his ability after the Roy fight.. then again, So did Roy.Comment
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Hopkins and Toney are just those fights i'm glad happened.
There are so many fighters that Roy has on his resume, that if he hadn't fought them people would say they could've given Roy a hard time.
That guy JC, the Mexican I think, or whatever. Roy beat him undefeated, but he's not a guy people mention as a good win for Roy. Yet after losing to Roy, this guy took Dariusz's 0. He also beat Glen Johnson. But do you ever see anybody mentioning him as a good win for Roy? It's pretty unfair if you ask me.Comment

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